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  • January Clear Out

    With us needing a few players to challenge for a place in the first 11 aswell as improve the quality of our squad but also needing to move players on to allow this to happen, who goes out and why?

    For me, I'd get rid of Bonne, Thomas, Masterson, Amos, Roberts and Owens. We are playing money to players who arent good enough or cant stay fit.

    Roberts needs to be sent back as even when he's fit he's no better than chair or willock and paying a wage to Leeds to have him as a sub is madness. Amos is another that should be moved on. He just never impacts a game and he's come through a premier league academy, he should be taking a game by the scruff of its neck but he just trots around doing nothing. It's a shame as he has some talent but he's too lightweight and isn't able to stand up when the game is physical and scrappy when we need a leader.

    Maybe he needs a fresh start somewhere else?

    Richards needs to either play or not? Hes either fit to play or send him back to Brighton. Cant understand when we have a lad who is fit but not on the bench??

    Surely training is meant to improve his fitness?

    Any thoughts?

  • #2
    To say Amos never impacts a game is wrong IMO. He has had some (a few) good games but he's just not consistent enough. Having said that, he's not had a decent run in the side yet.

    And if we're talking about players that don't impact a game and are too lightweight we may as well move Dozzell on too.
    "I don't read the papers, I don't gamble, I don't even know what day it is." - Steve McClaren.

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    • #3
      I would exclude Masterson as hes already out on loan and some/most of his wages will be getting covered.

      i agree with Roberts and Richards.

      They do say Jan us a difficult window and to make large turnover of players may be difficult. And we need a bench afterall.

      Looking at how good Balogan has been id be tempted to sell Dickie and bring in another loan CB or even recall Masterson if playing reports are positive. Any money for Dickie could finance an additional CF.... that lad from Villa.

      Cor some reason I think Bonne will run down his contract to be s free agent in the summer. I reckon hed refuse any loan deals unless something really good came up. Will L1 clubs have the finances now to sign him on a permi with their budgets alreadt set? They would need to move players on too.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Buffalo View Post
        To say Amos never impacts a game is wrong IMO. He has had some (a few) good games but he's just not consistent enough. Having said that, he's not had a decent run in the side yet.

        And if we're talking about players that don't impact a game and are too lightweight we may as well move Dozzell on too.
        Fair enough re Amos. Instead of never I should have said nowhere near enough. Aside from his run of goals and games in the run in last season then when has he showed he is the box to box player he is meant to be?


        Dozzell needs a big season as he's not stepped up to this level yet and its make or break for him. 2 million on a player who still hasn't convinced is a big gamble when we are watching our budget..January can't come quick enough. Lol!!

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        • #5
          I think the other issue with Amos is his appalling injury record, we can’t rely on him to be available for consecutive matches (he’ll be out again as pulled his hamstring yesterday)

          The likes of West Brom and Brum outmuscled us, at times yesterday it looked like men against boys.

          Given that all of our centre halves are fit (JCS will be back on tuesday) maybe we should start with 5 at the back and really utilise our wing backs given the fact that Stef and Amos are out and Dozzell is too lightweight in my opinion

          In terms of the OP, I agree that we need to get rid of quite a few and if poss generate some cash selling Bonne and maybe even Dickie

          Richards needs a run of games to be fair and Roberts has been a huge disappointment

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SheepRanger View Post
            I would exclude Masterson as hes already out on loan and some/most of his wages will be getting covered.

            i agree with Roberts and Richards.

            They do say Jan us a difficult window and to make large turnover of players may be difficult. And we need a bench afterall.

            Looking at how good Balogan has been id be tempted to sell Dickie and bring in another loan CB or even recall Masterson if playing reports are positive. Any money for Dickie could finance an additional CF.... that lad from Villa.

            Cor some reason I think Bonne will run down his contract to be s free agent in the summer. I reckon hed refuse any loan deals unless something really good came up. Will L1 clubs have the finances now to sign him on a permi with their budgets alreadt set? They would need to move players on too.
            Not sure masterson is out on loan?? I'm sure he is in training videos all the time.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dono77 View Post

              Not sure masterson is out on loan?? I'm sure he is in training videos all the time.
              You’re right, he got sent off playing for the B team the other day, he’s definitely still with us

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Buffalo View Post
                To say Amos never impacts a game is wrong IMO. He has had some (a few) good games but he's just not consistent enough. Having said that, he's not had a decent run in the side yet.

                And if we're talking about players that don't impact a game and are too lightweight we may as well move Dozzell on too.
                For me to Dozzell not up to championship level a poor player league 1at best, and we need to move some of these players on, need to get a striker badly,

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                • #9
                  I’d let Dozzell go not good enough
                  thomas not good enough
                  roberts can go back huge disappointment
                  richards not seen enough to judge
                  Dickie seems to be down the pecking order
                  Albert hardly played
                  shodipo time to go
                  nico

                  trouble is there 8 names at least we could move on to recruit 8 in 4 weeks is tough 4 is hard enough

                  we are desperate for a midfield dirty bugger and a cf we’re way of the pace lately

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                  • #10
                    This may bemuse a few, but I would move Chair on.

                    Yes, he is full of tricks, but overall he is very ineffectual.

                    Often he goes on pointless dribbles and either loses the ball or takes forever to pass the ball, his dead ball efforts are generally average at best.

                    Personally I’d take a couple of million and find a few new Chris Willock’s.

                    As said above, there at least 8 players nicking a living at Loftus Rd, some are not good enough, some are nearly always injured, I would get rid of them all. We need to replace them with 3 quality players , who can contend week in week out for a first team place.

                    2 strikers and a replacement full back would be my target.

                    All much harder said than done of course.
                    I have supported Rangers for 50 seasons.

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                    • #11
                      Agree, I'd add Bettache, Ody Alfa, Duke McKenna and Kelman.

                      Next summer, another big clearcut.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cross it Dave View Post
                        This may bemuse a few, but I would move Chair on.

                        Yes, he is full of tricks, but overall he is very ineffectual.

                        Often he goes on pointless dribbles and either loses the ball or takes forever to pass the ball, his dead ball efforts are generally average at best.

                        Personally I’d take a couple of million and find a few new Chris Willock’s.

                        As said above, there at least 8 players nicking a living at Loftus Rd, some are not good enough, some are nearly always injured, I would get rid of them all. We need to replace them with 3 quality players , who can contend week in week out for a first team place.

                        2 strikers and a replacement full back would be my target.

                        All much harder said than done of course.
                        I’d agree on chair as good as he is he ain’t as good as willock he can’t be outstanding game after game but he too often picks the wrong option to frequently can’t see villa going after him maybe a Burnley or bottom 8 prem at best side. I would be happy with Dembele at Bournemouth as a replacement for 500k quick and more of a forward

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                        • #13
                          Chair may not be "as good as Willock" but he's one of our best players and we'd still be much worse off without him IMO. I really don't understand some of these comments but I guess we all have our opinions.
                          "I don't read the papers, I don't gamble, I don't even know what day it is." - Steve McClaren.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Buffalo View Post
                            Chair may not be "as good as Willock" but he's one of our best players and we'd still be much worse off without him IMO. I really don't understand some of these comments but I guess we all have our opinions.
                            We’re a far stronger side with both chair and willock Imo we need a cf badly and if had to lose 1 to fund I’d pick chair however I’d much rather we cleared out deadwood for a cf to be funded

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                            • #15
                              A loan voice seemingly but I would keep Roberts. We desperately need bodies up front and he can play both as out and out CF and more in Willock/Chair role. He does have his downsides but that is why he has ended up on loan with us as opposed to being snapped up for 100m by Barcelona.

                              He does flatter to deceive but can run with the ball and is direct. He ranges from looking useful to being pretty ineffectual but we have next to nothing to spend. I struggle to see us realistically getting anyone much better on either loan or on free transfer/low fee.

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