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  • shaggy24
    Gold Seat
    • Apr 2016
    • 5794

    #31
    Originally posted by gator
    Once again I will ask the question, bring in who? Can we get Marc Bircham to leave the tropics and come home?
    If I were Bircham I wouldn’t leave poundland sale to manage us at present

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    • SheepRanger
      Administrator
      • Apr 2018
      • 8334

      #32
      Originally posted by supahupa10101
      I dont understand what people are expecting. The moment we was hit with that fine, we was always going to be relegated. In fact we done well to last in Championship as long as we have. Our team is lower tier League 1 quality. The fact is, if we was in League 1 right now then we be mid table and that be because of our midfield. The defence wouldn't make league 2. People talk about playoffs constantly but ask yourself if you was a team like Swansea. Who would you get from QPR? No one. People need to accept that the fine dug our grave and until its taken care off, we cant go forwards. We have the 5th lowest wage budget so we are where we deserve to be.
      The fine is being paid by the owners and does not form part of regular funding. The reason we're in this spot is because the owners have done their wedge and want it as close to self financing as possible. That's why BOS will be sold in Jan, if there's a buyer out there.

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      • gator
        Gold Seat
        • Aug 2010
        • 6791

        #33
        Originally posted by shaggy24

        If I were Bircham I wouldn’t leave poundland sale to manage us at present
        @gatorTFC

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        • shaggy24
          Gold Seat
          • Apr 2016
          • 5794

          #34
          Originally posted by SheepRanger

          The fine is being paid by the owners and does not form part of regular funding. The reason we're in this spot is because the owners have done their wedge and want it as close to self financing as possible. That's why BOS will be sold in Jan, if there's a buyer out there.
          Watching Bos pass and cross I’d pay a tenner

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          • SheepRanger
            Administrator
            • Apr 2018
            • 8334

            #35
            Originally posted by shaggy24

            Watching Bos pass and cross I’d pay a tenner
            If his performances are that bad he might soon regret not to take up the offer to play for a Champions League team in Belguim.
            Last edited by SheepRanger; 12-12-2020, 07:15 PM.

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            • supahupa10101
              Bronze Seat
              • Apr 2019
              • 355

              #36
              Originally posted by SheepRanger

              The fine is being paid by the owners and does not form part of regular funding. The reason we're in this spot is because the owners have done their wedge and want it as close to self financing as possible. That's why BOS will be sold in Jan, if there's a buyer out there.
              Yea which all goes back to fine however. We are shortening the wage budget, we are selling our best players and playing youth. Ultimately as long as we keep selling our best players, we will always be weakening the team

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              • shaggy24
                Gold Seat
                • Apr 2016
                • 5794

                #37
                Originally posted by supahupa10101

                Yea which all goes back to fine however. We are shortening the wage budget, we are selling our best players and playing youth. Ultimately as long as we keep selling our best players, we will always be weakening the team
                There not many assets left tbh. Would you but Kane, kakay Cameron etc

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                • Rich
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3412

                  #38
                  What’s Luigi De Canio up to nowadays? He always said he wanted to come back one day. Got us playing good football but sure to win more Games than we are now

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                  • Stainrod
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 3162

                    #39
                    I’d still hold off for now but the board need to be asking him some serious questions . Mainly why have you spent a large portion of the transfer budget on a player you are refusing to play ( Bonne ). He has scored more goals in open play this season than Dykes and looks like more of a natural striker but he needs to play .1 up front is fine for a team that has players chipping in with goals from other areas , Chair seems to be our only really threat , Bos is getting worse game by game and there is barely a goal in our 3 centre midfielders . The ball is in Warbs court now , either be positive and try to beat teams rather than try to pass them to death or he will only have himself to blame.

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                    • Abseits
                      Silver Seat
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 4973

                      #40
                      Originally posted by gator
                      Once again I will ask the question, bring in who? Can we get Marc Bircham to leave the tropics and come home?
                      Why are you complicating things by demanding to know who is replacement will be? Warburton clearly won't be retained beyond June when his contract expires - he has shown no indication whatsoever that he can get a tune out of this squad so there's no way on earth he will be offered a new contract.
                      Warburton is so diabolical it's extremely likely he will get us relegated as his parting shot so I believe it's worth using a chunk of the Eze money to sack him and buy-out a manager to replace him.
                      The world is a big place with a lot of managers potentially available. I don't think it will be hard to get someone better than Warburton. I mentioned Paul Cook a year ago and I'd still grab him. Ian Evett impresses me. Gracia allegedly wants out of Valencia. Joseph Barton seems to have done well at Fleetwood. Mike Flynn does well at Newport ditto Wild Thing at Wycombe. I'm not interested in ex-players per se, there's no "QPR way" or heritage to maintain - I'd want a manager who has a track record of managing useless players on a shoestring budget and getting them to punch up above their weight.
                      But, irrespective of all that I have a day job that doesn't involve keeping abreast of football managers - there are people at the club who's job is to track players and managers and nurture relationships and channels in the spirit of continuous improvement. Les will have a list of at least 10 managerial targets for June...... no reason he can't tap into that list today if need be.
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                      • Stainrod
                        Silver Seat
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 3162

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Abseits

                        Why are you complicating things by demanding to know who is replacement will be? Warburton clearly won't be retained beyond June when his contract expires - he has shown no indication whatsoever that he can get a tune out of this squad so there's no way on earth he will be offered a new contract.
                        Warburton is so diabolical it's extremely likely he will get us relegated as his parting shot so I believe it's worth using a chunk of the Eze money to sack him and buy-out a manager to replace him.
                        The world is a big place with a lot of managers potentially available. I don't think it will be hard to get someone better than Warburton. I mentioned Paul Cook a year ago and I'd still grab him. Ian Evett impresses me. Gracia allegedly wants out of Valencia. Joseph Barton seems to have done well at Fleetwood. Mike Flynn does well at Newport ditto Wild Thing at Wycombe. I'm not interested in ex-players per se, there's no "QPR way" or heritage to maintain - I'd want a manager who has a track record of managing useless players on a shoestring budget and getting them to punch up above their weight.
                        But, irrespective of all that I have a day job that doesn't involve keeping abreast of football managers - there are people at the club who's job is to track players and managers and nurture relationships and channels in the spirit of continuous improvement. Les will have a list of at least 10 managerial targets for June...... no reason he can't tap into that list today if need be.
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                        Jimmy floyd hasselbaink had the same cv as some of the managers you described, got a promotion with a team of average players and look how that turned out for us .I agree though Warbs contract won’t be renewed in June unless there’s a massive turned around in results between now and the end of the season .

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                        • shaggy24
                          Gold Seat
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 5794

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Stainrod
                          I’d still hold off for now but the board need to be asking him some serious questions . Mainly why have you spent a large portion of the transfer budget on a player you are refusing to play ( Bonne ). He has scored more goals in open play this season than Dykes and looks like more of a natural striker but he needs to play .1 up front is fine for a team that has players chipping in with goals from other areas , Chair seems to be our only really threat , Bos is getting worse game by game and there is barely a goal in our 3 centre midfielders . The ball is in Warbs court now , either be positive and try to beat teams rather than try to pass them to death or he will only have himself to blame.
                          Having Bonne and playing him out wide is inexcusable when willock was doing ok and looked better than Bos who was shocking today but to be fair whoever had him left right left right needs to think a bit more.

                          Cameron ain’t got it too slow rather play a limited ball or look at Battache.

                          Forwards need quicker and better service our wingers can’t cross and our full backs can’t cross as pro footballers that’s very poor. chair ok he’s young but he can’t cross either but takes set pieces

                          There’s issues with this squad it’s young but for all it’s failings it’s played some good stuff amongst some dross for the good stuff I applaud warbs but he’s got failings that I don’t think he can sort out a plan b or being proactive before opposing managers. But last up my biggest gripe is the errors we don’t look like rectifying frailties I accept it must be difficult to train when playing every 72 ish hours but watch a bloody video highlighting the errors

                          it’s a tough watch at present due to the predictable error we will make in a game some of them need a kick up the #### and n MB w ain’t got it in him

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                          • QPRDave
                            The number 10
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 32060

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Abseits

                            Why are you complicating things by demanding to know who is replacement will be? Warburton clearly won't be retained beyond June when his contract expires - he has shown no indication whatsoever that he can get a tune out of this squad so there's no way on earth he will be offered a new contract.
                            Warburton is so diabolical it's extremely likely he will get us relegated as his parting shot so I believe it's worth using a chunk of the Eze money to sack him and buy-out a manager to replace him.
                            The world is a big place with a lot of managers potentially available. I don't think it will be hard to get someone better than Warburton. I mentioned Paul Cook a year ago and I'd still grab him. Ian Evett impresses me. Gracia allegedly wants out of Valencia. Joseph Barton seems to have done well at Fleetwood. Mike Flynn does well at Newport ditto Wild Thing at Wycombe. I'm not interested in ex-players per se, there's no "QPR way" or heritage to maintain - I'd want a manager who has a track record of managing useless players on a shoestring budget and getting them to punch up above their weight.
                            But, irrespective of all that I have a day job that doesn't involve keeping abreast of football managers - there are people at the club who's job is to track players and managers and nurture relationships and channels in the spirit of continuous improvement. Les will have a list of at least 10 managerial targets for June...... no reason he can't tap into that list today if need be.
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                            Ryan Lowe at Plymouth done super job and previously at Bury.

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                            • QPRDave
                              The number 10
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 32060

                              #44
                              Bos is saving himself for his new club.
                              He has no interest in QPR now imo.
                              Probably already sorted out a deal

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                              • cross it Dave
                                Silver Seat
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3790

                                #45
                                Originally posted by QPRDave
                                Bos is saving himself for his new club.
                                He has no interest in QPR now imo.
                                Probably already sorted out a deal
                                The sooner he is gone the better, can’t wait to see him do his black panther fist at Ibrox.

                                I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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