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  • SheepRanger
    Administrator
    • Apr 2018
    • 8332

    #31
    QPR players to take the knee in Millwall game

    https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/...-millwall-game

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    • SM3 Ranger
      Bronze Seat
      • Apr 2011
      • 324

      #32
      If we are now taking the knee after citing reasons not to do, is this not slightly hypocritical or is it bowing down to what is perceived as being right because of the Millwall booing?
      I support kick it out fully ,but cannot get behind blm because of some of its aims, does that mean I am not entitled to that opinion or I am somehow a rabid racist for having a mind of my own?
      I am sure many are taking the knee only because they are pressured to do so and would be vilified if they didn't do it.
      All this is doing is creating division where there was none(almost I think by design)
      I am proud to say our club and supporters are amongst the least racist in the country yet even we are divided over this.

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      • shaggy24
        Gold Seat
        • Apr 2016
        • 5793

        #33
        Originally posted by SM3 Ranger
        If we are now taking the knee after citing reasons not to do, is this not slightly hypocritical or is it bowing down to what is perceived as being right because of the Millwall booing?
        I support kick it out fully ,but cannot get behind blm because of some of its aims, does that mean I am not entitled to that opinion or I am somehow a rabid racist for having a mind of my own?
        I am sure many are taking the knee only because they are pressured to do so and would be vilified if they didn't do it.
        All this is doing is creating division where there was none(almost I think by design)
        I am proud to say our club and supporters are amongst the least racist in the country yet even we are divided over this.
        Personally I think if players have decided to or not too kneel they should stick to the decision they previously made, not bow down to wall fans booing that’s their opinion and entitled to it it’s what’s known as making a decision based on what they believe. Our club made a statement from a black Dof and that should be the end of it.

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        • SheepRanger
          Administrator
          • Apr 2018
          • 8332

          #34
          By us deciding to take the knee against Millwall the club has effectively decided that their fans booing was a racist response.

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          • Macca
            Silver Seat
            • Apr 2012
            • 4047

            #35
            So they are being told to take the knee now I thought it voluntary, was it the Millwall fans were booing the player that was giving the black power salute.

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            • QPRDave
              The number 10
              • Mar 2009
              • 32060

              #36
              Originally posted by Macca
              So they are being told to take the knee now I thought it voluntary, was it the Millwall fans were booing the player that was giving the black power salute.
              So QPR now tell players and the rest of us what to do and think.
              That bellend toast man saying discrimination will not be tolerated,yet orders his players to show support for an overtly racist
              organisation/political party.
              Club are an embarrassment on and off the field

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              • cross it Dave
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2009
                • 3790

                #37
                Well said Dave
                I have supported Rangers for 55 seasons, since March 1969.

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                • 72bus
                  Gold Seat
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 9487

                  #38
                  Yesterday I was part of a football match , it was a white team against a black team with a white keeper . Every one got on fine and fist bumped eachother at the final whistle .... What I'm getting at is football can take care of itself it doesn't need politics , right wing , blm or VAR trying to Fk it up

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                  • QPRDave
                    The number 10
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 32060

                    #39
                    Exactly 72

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                    • Shania
                      C Club
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 23695

                      #40
                      I can`t really comprehend why the "All Life Matters" slogan is regarded as a racist statement. Fact is, that to me it includes every human being regardless race, gender, age and even the odd Chelsea and Leeds supporter..
                      QPR
                      Best team in the world
                      Sort of

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                      • FurtiveFox
                        Silver Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4168

                        #41
                        Not right decision in my view, just bowing down to political correctness.

                        Agree with what club originally said about message being lost. In terms of racial equality BLM appeases the PC minority but if anything is harmful to what should be the cause.

                        Problem is if you say anything you are absolutely hammered for it and it can have serious consequences to employment etc. What a BS situation this country has allowed itself to get into.

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                        • SheepRanger
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 8332

                          #42
                          Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                          Not right decision in my view, just bowing down to political correctness.

                          Agree with what club originally said about message being lost. In terms of racial equality BLM appeases the PC minority but if anything is harmful to what should be the cause.

                          Problem is if you say anything you are absolutely hammered for it and it can have serious consequences to employment etc. What a BS situation this country has allowed itself to get into.
                          The FA & Premier League should have seen the problems the BLM movement has caused in American Sport due to its political agenda. Why we adopted the very same slogan here beggars belief.

                          The authorities are now in a difficult position that if it stops thr BLM support they are bowing to a 'Millwall mob' but if it continues it could cause unrest at other clubs where booing may start and all fans will be labelled racist.

                          The authorities have a clear get out of jail card now the BLM movement has attempted to register with the Electoral Cimmussion and move into politics. It can legitimately say football does not support any political movement and move to another slogan without taking the knee.

                          You've made a rod for your own backs - now deal with it. There should be an end date of 31 Dec 2020. Then individuals do whatever they like as part of their normal pre match religious actions. Pray to whatever God or organisation you believe in.

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                          • QPRDave
                            The number 10
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 32060

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Shania
                            I can`t really comprehend why the "All Life Matters" slogan is regarded as a racist statement. Fact is, that to me it includes every human being regardless race, gender, age and even the odd Chelsea and Leeds supporter..
                            Exactly Shania, .......Oh btw it's not racist, it doesn't fit the agenda that's all

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                            • QPRDave
                              The number 10
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 32060

                              #44
                              Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                              Not right decision in my view, just bowing down to political correctness.

                              Agree with what club originally said about message being lost. In terms of racial equality BLM appeases the PC minority but if anything is harmful to what should be the cause.

                              Problem is if you say anything you are absolutely hammered for it and it can have serious consequences to employment etc. What a BS situation this country has allowed itself to get into.
                              Agreed.
                              And I think all these people who are white telling us we're all racist are in fact the biggest racists out there.
                              Alot of you fellas and girls have grown up in London surrounded by multi cultures.
                              You all have friends who are from different backgrounds, you don't need these middle class warriors telling you how to behave towards your friends and neighbours.
                              These people are imo the white saviours that have been complained about.
                              They are using black people for their own political ends. Patronising them, telling them that they're on their side.
                              BLM, the name itself is divisive the, obviously if you disagree they say so you don't think their lives matter.

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                              • QPRDave
                                The number 10
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 32060

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SheepRanger

                                The FA & Premier League should have seen the problems the BLM movement has caused in American Sport due to its political agenda. Why we adopted the very same slogan here beggars belief.

                                The authorities are now in a difficult position that if it stops thr BLM support they are bowing to a 'Millwall mob' but if it continues it could cause unrest at other clubs where booing may start and all fans will be labelled racist.

                                The authorities have a clear get out of jail card now the BLM movement has attempted to register with the Electoral Cimmussion and move into politics. It can legitimately say football does not support any political movement and move to another slogan without taking the knee.

                                You've made a rod for your own backs - now deal with it. There should be an end date of 31 Dec 2020. Then individuals do whatever they like as part of their normal pre match religious actions. Pray to whatever God or organisation you believe in.
                                I see QPR are backing the rainbow laces FA backed campaign along with I presume all other clubs.
                                Will the FA now they have a liking for bringing politics in to the game, do something about qatar and their medieval human rights violations?
                                How about pull the England team out of the competition unless the country strives and promises to clean up its act

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