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  • Shania
    C Club
    • Apr 2010
    • 23695

    #61
    A huge talent.
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    • corbray
      Silver Seat
      • Feb 2016
      • 3030

      #62
      he's better than ingram that's for sure. he'll only get better in time

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      • qpr
        Platinum Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 10372

        #63
        Originally posted by corbray
        he's better than ingram that's for sure. he'll only get better in time
        My only issue is Lumley is young, he will need time & he may make mistakes, Ingram is the back up ........ Ingram is terrible
        Under Les Ferdinand:
        Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
        Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
        Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
        Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
        And many more mistakes

        LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO

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        • Mem
          Referee
          • Aug 2009
          • 2375

          #64
          Not sure how helpful it is to slate Ingram - he’s our player after all. Having said that Lumley is the better, more assured keeper and should be our number 1 without doubt

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          • qpr
            Platinum Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 10372

            #65
            Originally posted by Mem
            Not sure how helpful it is to slate Ingram - he’s our player after all. Having said that Lumley is the better, more assured keeper and should be our number 1 without doubt
            I understand your point however it’s simply stating the truth.

            I would never vocally sl@g players off during a game
            Under Les Ferdinand:
            Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
            Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
            Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
            Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
            And many more mistakes

            LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO

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            • QPROslo
              Silver Seat
              • Dec 2010
              • 1137

              #66
              McClaren makes Ingram look much worse than he is. He put him behind a new back four that had hardly played together, asked everyone to play a new brand of football, based on possession and "play it out from the back" with players not suited for it (Lynch, Leistner, Scowen, Bidwell etc). We were terrible at playing tikki-takka just outside our own box and lost possession again and again in dangerous areas. To put an inexperienced goalkeeper (with less than a handful of Championship matches under his belt) in this situation is simply unfair. McClaren has to take the blame for this risky set up and he is responsible for Ingram's confidence now being record low.

              I think there is a very decent keeper in there, but Ingram future now relies on the man-management and motivation skills of McClaren. He needs to be eased back.

              I think Lumley will go on to be our first choice keeper for years and he has the potential to go very far, but I wouldn't give up the idea that Ingram is a good understudy.

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              • Nick
                Gold Seat
                • Oct 2013
                • 5593

                #67
                Done a great job and tbh kept us in the game a fair few times. We've got a right $hit defence, really hope some someone/two come in on loan to help out.
                SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                • Shania
                  C Club
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 23695

                  #68
                  Originally posted by QPROslo
                  McClaren makes Ingram look much worse than he is. He put him behind a new back four that had hardly played together, asked everyone to play a new brand of football, based on possession and "play it out from the back" with players not suited for it (Lynch, Leistner, Scowen, Bidwell etc). We were terrible at playing tikki-takka just outside our own box and lost possession again and again in dangerous areas. To put an inexperienced goalkeeper (with less than a handful of Championship matches under his belt) in this situation is simply unfair. McClaren has to take the blame for this risky set up and he is responsible for Ingram's confidence now being record low.

                  I think there is a very decent keeper in there, but Ingram future now relies on the man-management and motivation skills of McClaren. He needs to be eased back.

                  I think Lumley will go on to be our first choice keeper for years and he has the potential to go very far, but I wouldn't give up the idea that Ingram is a good understudy.
                  A fair assessment, I think!!
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                  • Shepherds Mush
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 10325

                    #69
                    Make him number one, send Ingram out on loan and get in an experienced keeper who is ok with being a back-up keeper for us.

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                    • 72bus
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 9487

                      #70
                      was impressed with him v wigan , nice save in 1st half and looks the part , ingram's kicking is woeful

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                      • qpr
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 10372

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                        Make him number one, send Ingram out on loan and get in an experienced keeper who is ok with being a back-up keeper for us.
                        I agree
                        Under Les Ferdinand:
                        Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
                        Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
                        Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
                        Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
                        And many more mistakes

                        LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO

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                        • Timmy the Doc
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 3193

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Shania

                          A fair assessment, I think!!
                          Or maybe Ingram just isn't as good as we think? To me he seems to be rather slow, can't kick a ball and can't organize his defense. McLaren's fault is picking him. Nothing else.

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                          • Shania
                            C Club
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 23695

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Timmy the Doc

                            Or maybe Ingram just isn't as good as we think? To me he seems to be rather slow, can't kick a ball and can't organize his defense. McLaren's fault is picking him. Nothing else.
                            Or it cant be easy to replace Alex Smithies. Imagine the pressure...But i agree, Lumley looked more assured...
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                            • Rangerod
                              Apprentice
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 70

                              #74
                              I was really impressed with his chutzpah! The he was commanding, shouting at his defenders to get in position, he scolded them when they did not do their job properly, he remonstrated with the ref like a veteran and wasted plenty of secs on the ground at the end of the game to gain us some time. These are all aspects of a mature keeper not a huge. Impressive. Loved his distribution too!

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                              • West Acton
                                CCG
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 21475

                                #75
                                Ingram looks like a throw back keeper from the 90s. Most keepers nowadays are slim and agile where he is barrel chested and awkward

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