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  • rblockells
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 2453

    #16
    Originally posted by ollyhoops
    I don't really think much would had changed TBH, probably a few points better off... but thats about it.

    The problem is that the board won't back the manager, and with Briatores interfering with the team selection I doubt any manager would had done much better.

    I wanted Sousa to stay as I saw potential in him (or more than others), but your right in saying that a few people here did hound and virtually cyber sacked sousa.... shame really.
    the "few points" that you mention could be the difference between promotion and mid-table obscurity.

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    • Quaz

      #17
      Originally posted by rblockells
      the "few points" that you mention could be the difference between promotion and mid-table obscurity.
      or staying up

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      • qblockpete
        C Club
        • Mar 2009
        • 22186

        #18
        Answer original question

        The poster was very pro Sousa who posted the thread you are talking about. I hopefully am allowed an opinion and was giving it, the guy provided us with the most boring football I have witnessed. Facts are he had worse winning ratio of all the managers under Flavio.

        To answer your question, he would have struggled
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        • rblockells
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 2453

          #19
          Ok mate-you are entitled to your opinion,however MOST rangers fans that i know believe that Sousa would have got us up,given time.

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          • Hoopaman

            #20
            Originally posted by qblockpete
            Answer original question

            The poster was very pro Sousa who posted the thread you are talking about. I hopefully am allowed an opinion and was giving it, the guy provided us with the most boring football I have witnessed. Facts are he had worse winning ratio of all the managers under Flavio.

            To answer your question, he would have struggled
            Had he of been able to bring in his own players then im sure it wouldnt of been boring!
            Show us the Facts then.. does he have the worst losing ratio as well? Hes struggling at Swansea too I see. Get rid of them blinkers pete.

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            • Rangersw12
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 2010

              #21
              Originally posted by qblockpete
              Answer original question

              The poster was very pro Sousa who posted the thread you are talking about. I hopefully am allowed an opinion and was giving it, the guy provided us with the most boring football I have witnessed. Facts are he had worse winning ratio of all the managers under Flavio.

              To answer your question, he would have struggled
              Out of Sousa 26 games or so I'm sure we were undefeated in 19

              If we had let Sousa manage and bought his own players then we would be doing well
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              • rblockells
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 2453

                #22
                Paolo Sousa is a football man...our people in charge are self-preservation/money men..end of

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                • qblockpete
                  C Club
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 22186

                  #23
                  Thats the problem

                  you are being influenced by the fact he was a European Winner, and doing well at Swansea. You see him as a man for some strange reason, who could have done wonders for us.

                  I disagree, anyways we are not in this predicament now because he is not here, we are here because we keep changing managers, players have too much power and the owner does not want to invest anymore.
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                  • Hoopaman

                    #24
                    Originally posted by qblockpete
                    Thats the problem

                    you are being influenced by the fact he was a European Winner, and doing well at Swansea. You see him as a man for some strange reason, who could have done wonders for us.

                    I disagree, anyways we are not in this predicament now because he is not here, we are here because we keep changing managers, players have too much power and the owner does not want to invest anymore.
                    you forgot to mention the sporting director. He's played a massive part too. How he still has a job I don't know.

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                    • AndyB
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 329

                      #25
                      Is the club losing more money on the day to day things than it was when they bought the club? (I mean excluding extra spend on the stadium and certain contracts).

                      Just wondering - I suspect the answer is no. We were losing money then, and the new owners wanted to turn that around. They haven't and have now got the hump.
                      It was their business plan and theirs only.

                      Forget about the Magilton situation, I'll even cut some slack over certain players not doing the biz.
                      A business plan for 4-5 years was in place. And they have not managed it.

                      They have failed.

                      I suspect a lot of spin will come out from the Briatore PR machine just like Chris Wright, that the fans made his decision etc. Which of course, is absolute tosh.

                      FB knows Italian football and know how cut-throat it is there with the fans etc. British fans have NOTHING on the Italians when it comes to protest. So he can;t be surprised about the level of feeling at the moment.

                      So, he (Briatore) was just gambling on the methods employed so far to get us promotion - rather than using a solid football plan to back-up the buisness one.

                      Or.....he's just crap at business. But he can't be, can he? He's loaded.......self-made and all that. Hmmmm.

                      Or.....there is a plot to get LR on the cheap, cloaked in shady self set-up companies loaning to each other. Possible I suppose, but why?
                      Why go through all that hassle to make a few million when you already have an absolute fortune? There are easier ways.

                      Or...maybe he genuinely wanted the project to succeed and now knows he can't "cut-it" and is jumping ship like Alan Sugar. Football is not a normal business. Many of these investors appear to be very blind to this fact.

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                      • Rebel R's
                        King of Pessimism
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 12266

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rblockells
                        Ok mate-you are entitled to your opinion,however MOST rangers fans that i know believe that Sousa would have got us up,given time.
                        i think most sensible fans feel that way,getting rid of Sousa was a huge mistake

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                        • rblockells
                          Silver Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 2453

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AndyB
                          Is the club losing more money on the day to day things than it was when they bought the club? (I mean excluding extra spend on the stadium and certain contracts).

                          Just wondering - I suspect the answer is no. We were losing money then, and the new owners wanted to turn that around. They haven't and have now got the hump.
                          It was their business plan and theirs only.

                          Forget about the Magilton situation, I'll even cut some slack over certain players not doing the biz.
                          A business plan for 4-5 years was in place. And they have not managed it.

                          They have failed.

                          I suspect a lot of spin will come out from the Briatore PR machine just like Chris Wright, that the fans made his decision etc. Which of course, is absolute tosh.

                          FB knows Italian football and know how cut-throat it is there with the fans etc. British fans have NOTHING on the Italians when it comes to protest. So he can;t be surprised about the level of feeling at the moment.

                          So, he (Briatore) was just gambling on the methods employed so far to get us promotion - rather than using a solid football plan to back-up the buisness one.

                          Or.....he's just crap at business. But he can't be, can he? He's loaded.......self-made and all that. Hmmmm.

                          Or.....there is a plot to get LR on the cheap, cloaked in shady self set-up companies loaning to each other. Possible I suppose, but why?
                          Why go through all that hassle to make a few million when you already have an absolute fortune? There are easier ways.

                          Or...maybe he genuinely wanted the project to succeed and now knows he can't "cut-it" and is jumping ship like Alan Sugar. Football is not a normal business. Many of these investors appear to be very blind to this fact.
                          very very good questions....

                          anyone know any answers??

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                          • qprdad
                            Bronze Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 791

                            #28
                            Originally posted by rblockells
                            Just to rewind a few months...

                            a few people on here were involved in hounding Paolo Sousa out of our club.

                            Just a question..where would we be now if he was still in charge??
                            Ow give it a rest will you?

                            PS was sacked because FB didn't want him there any more..... no other reason..... Do you really think that this MB had anything to do with it?:very_sad:

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                            • Sharpy

                              #29
                              What was the reason given for his dismissal Dad ?

                              "It came to the club's attention that Mr De Sousa had, without authority, divulged highly confidential and sensitive information. The club, with legal advice, responded in this way to protect its position."

                              If you can find "Wozza" (Shergar will be easier) perhaps you could ask him/her......
                              Last edited by Guest; 31-01-2010, 01:47 AM.

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                              • PeterG
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1957

                                #30
                                Which other recent manager took 7 points from 3 consecutive away games with scores of 2-2 0-2 and 0-3? wasnt that boring

                                We had a team that defended as a unit and he didnt have the likes of taraabt,simpson buzsaky and vine, he had to make do with dicarmine and alberti! and still won 3-0 away at blackpool on a windswept winters night in a downpour
                                its New Era number 8 i tell thee, bring on the fireworks

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