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  • conners
    Bronze Seat
    • Apr 2009
    • 905

    #1

    A different perspective on all this negativity

    Ok, I was one of the 693 that went up there last night.

    I have many of the comments on here in recent weeks about players not being bothered etc, and although i felt those comments applied to Routledge (a guy that has a lot of pace and tends to look lazy but tended to not be bothered) I genuinely can't say that I felt that way about any of the players last night.

    Taking Ramage as an example. The guy tried but he was just not good enough. Simple as.

    Akos, is another example. The guy has not been the same since he got injured. Maybe he is no longer capable of producing the performances of old.

    We have a large number of players in our team that need to be told what to do, or someone to take control of the game. Someone like Rowlands/Mahon does that and it is no surprise that our performances have gone downhill since both of these players have been injured.

    Forget talk of fullbacks etc (whilst I admit ours are poor). These guys are capable of looking a lot lot better when there is a leader on the pitch and there lies the route of our problem (although we do need a couple of strikers also). The basis of this team is the same as the one that was kicking arses a few months back.

    The team has not become crap overnight but with Rowands out they need someone in centre mid alongside Quashie (who i think will have a lot to offer) that can get stuck in and boss people around.
  • bushcelt1
    CCG
    • Sep 2009
    • 11070

    #2
    All the sithe off the pitch has had a huge influence on the players. No-one knows who's coming or going.
    PRIDE OF LONDON.

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    • writtler
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 1001

      #3
      No it hasn't become crap overnight Conners - it became good overnight for a few games and has reverted back to what it is - a decidely average, badly assembled, unbalanced squad and the person who assembled it should be relieved of his duties forthwith...
      "Originally Posted by qblockpete
      QPR will finish at least in the Play offs
      Swansea will finish in bottom 6
      Middlesboro will finish champions"

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      • vblockranger
        • Mar 2009
        • 15218

        #4
        so we are crap because we have no leader on the pitch? 1 win in 12 because we have no leader? dont add up....

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        • Tarbie
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 8542

          #5
          Christ Conners, where do you get your optimism from?

          Can't you just give it a rest and bitch with the rest of us?!!!!

          lol

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          • twranger
            On the posh naughty step
            • Mar 2009
            • 10472

            #6
            Originally posted by Tarbie
            Christ Conners, where do you get your optimism from?

            Can't you just give it a rest and bitch with the rest of us?!!!!

            lol
            because he doesn't blindly follow the opinions of others and sticks to his own beliefs and that has to be admired. Sorry if that bucks the trend of knocking Mr.Conners but thats how it is

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            • Nodge70

              #7
              Originally posted by twranger
              because he doesn't blindly follow the opinions of others and sticks to his own beliefs and that has to be admired. Sorry if that bucks the trend of knocking Mr.Conners but thats how it is
              Or he could have a vested interest or even be a club employee. Who knows?

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              • FurtiveFox
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 4173

                #8
                Originally posted by Nodge70
                Or he could have a vested interest or even be a club employee. Who knows?
                He may be an alien. You have been warned.

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                • Kit
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3747

                  #9
                  Conners both you and me hold the same beliefs and you aren't far wrong there either !

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                  • paulmason
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 7443

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nodge70
                    Or he could have a vested interest or even be a club employee. Who knows?
                    He writes his comments as if he is an insider and he comes across as someone who thinks that as we pay £20 (much more actually), our opinions are not valid, but his are.

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                    • Nodge70

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                      He may be an alien. You have been warned.
                      Now you mention it - there's an uncanny resemblance between a club employee and ALF. Co-incidence?

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                      • Stedders
                        Silver Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1148

                        #12
                        I agree about the lack of leaders, it is blatantly obvious. They are the people who pull a team together in difficult times, and keep things in shape when playing well. We need at least one leader in defence, and same in midfield. Who are they? The keeper also needs to be very vocal, like a wicketkeeper in cricket. Chirping away, chivvying up the players in front.

                        The spine of our team is very weak in genuine leaders, and until we address this our bad run of form is unlikely to improve, in my opinion. I htink Quashie will help, but he is 'new' so we need to give him a bit of time.

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                        • Spencer
                          Silver Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1745

                          #13
                          Originally posted by conners
                          Ok, I was one of the 693 that went up there last night.

                          I have many of the comments on here in recent weeks about players not being bothered etc, and although i felt those comments applied to Routledge (a guy that has a lot of pace and tends to look lazy but tended to not be bothered) I genuinely can't say that I felt that way about any of the players last night.

                          Taking Ramage as an example. The guy tried but he was just not good enough. Simple as.

                          Akos, is another example. The guy has not been the same since he got injured. Maybe he is no longer capable of producing the performances of old.

                          We have a large number of players in our team that need to be told what to do, or someone to take control of the game. Someone like Rowlands/Mahon does that and it is no surprise that our performances have gone downhill since both of these players have been injured.

                          Forget talk of fullbacks etc (whilst I admit ours are poor). These guys are capable of looking a lot lot better when there is a leader on the pitch and there lies the route of our problem (although we do need a couple of strikers also). The basis of this team is the same as the one that was kicking arses a few months back.

                          The team has not become crap overnight but with Rowands out they need someone in centre mid alongside Quashie (who i think will have a lot to offer) that can get stuck in and boss people around.
                          Ok - i'm not a Conners loverI do think sometimes he talks down to fans, but saying that...he went to Forest and to be fair - i agree with a lot of this post.

                          Before Mahon was playing - he was knocked by loads, when he played in our "mini run" - we looked a good team.Ramage assessment looks spot on - he does try his hardest - but simply is not good enough.We do need full backs and a few strikers.And yes you do need leaders on the pitch....before the Forest game when i saw the team sheet i thought the team looked string and well balanced.Players like Faurlin Simpson Connolly etc do need leaders on the pitch - especially with what has been going on off the pitch.

                          So - despite not really liking some of Conners comments in past - judging on just the post he has made...makes sense to me.

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                          • Rangersw12
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 2010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Spencer
                            Ok - i'm not a Conners loverI do think sometimes he talks down to fans, but saying that...he went to Forest and to be fair - i agree with a lot of this post.

                            Before Mahon was playing - he was knocked by loads, when he played in our "mini run" - we looked a good team.Ramage assessment looks spot on - he does try his hardest - but simply is not good enough.We do need full backs and a few strikers.And yes you do need leaders on the pitch....before the Forest game when i saw the team sheet i thought the team looked string and well balanced.Players like Faurlin Simpson Connolly etc do need leaders on the pitch - especially with what has been going on off the pitch.

                            So - despite not really liking some of Conners comments in past - judging on just the post he has made...makes sense to me.
                            I saw the team and it looked like square pegs in round holes to me and we had no natural width
                            We Are The People.....

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                            • Spencer
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1745

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rangersw12
                              I saw the team and it looked like square pegs in round holes to me and we had no natural width
                              Rangersw12 - i did say the team longked quite string....

                              Buz and Adel are not natural wingers and do drift in....Faurlin, did he play wide, as that's not his natural postion - so yes - get your point with Wayne departed - team does appear rather narrow...

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