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  • Shepherds Mush
    Platinum Seat
    • Nov 2012
    • 10325

    #451
    Originally posted by stanistheman
    Equally why play a system for wing backs when you haven't signed any.
    Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

    or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

    Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.
    Last edited by Shepherds Mush; 05-10-2017, 01:11 PM.

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    • Hubble
      Postmodernist
      • Jan 2013
      • 5616

      #452
      Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
      Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

      or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

      Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.
      Could play 4-3-3 with fullbacks overlapping as necessary. But we just don't have the forwards, and this has been such a glaringly obvious problem for ages it's scandalous nothing has been done to remedy this. I mean, our forwards are crap in any formation, let's be honest. Washington should have been sold, if possible, maybe Sylla too. From what I've seen young Eze looks the real deal but he's been loaned out. I've said it elsewhere, but for me one of Ollie's biggest flaws is his failure to properly integrate youth in the team. He seems scared of their talent. All totally subjective, I accept, but that's how it seems to me.

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      • stanistheman
        Platinum Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 11151

        #453
        Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
        Should play 4-5-1 (or 4-2-3-1 as per 2010/11 season) except we don't have a striker who can play up top alone (unless Sylla can) ?

        or 4-4-2 but then we lose the Scowen/Luongo/Freeman mix in the middle as one would have to go left or right mid ?

        Not convinced myself that we can play 3-5-2 with what we have.
        442 might lose the dynamic trio, but Freeman can play on the left wing and beat his full back as well as put in great crosses for either Smith or Sylla to get on the end of. If Washington is also in the side, we would them see what he is capable of (although I'd probably give Wheeler a chance).

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        • Cjskinz
          Bronze Seat
          • May 2015
          • 503

          #454
          We have a good thing going with those 3 in the middle and you want to change it? Sounds like a much maligned manager to me...
          My old man never said be a Chelsea fan...

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          • Pinkie
            Silver Seat
            • Apr 2016
            • 4664

            #455
            Originally posted by FurtiveFox
            He has been managing for donkeys years. If he doesn't get tactics now he shouldn't be managing.

            Whilst I'm sure Ollie has had important input into the club's signings he himself has said Sir Les does this.

            As I have said before would make a great assistant manager. I'm sure many on here are passionate about the club. Doesn't mean we should all be appointed joint managers!
            Are you still going on?! yes les just sorts the paperwork and fine details out but just ignore that for youre own self honestly furtive i thought id give it a break as it gets seriously boring me bleating on and you going on and on on every single thread ollie hasnt a clue! its just boring everyone & should bore yerself too as ive bored myself with trying to reply just a thought......
            http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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            • Pinkie
              Silver Seat
              • Apr 2016
              • 4664

              #456
              Originally posted by Hubble
              Could play 4-3-3 with fullbacks overlapping as necessary. But we just don't have the forwards, and this has been such a glaringly obvious problem for ages it's scandalous nothing has been done to remedy this. I mean, our forwards are crap in any formation, let's be honest. Washington should have been sold, if possible, maybe Sylla too. From what I've seen young Eze looks the real deal but he's been loaned out. I've said it elsewhere, but for me one of Ollie's biggest flaws is his failure to properly integrate youth in the team. He seems scared of their talent. All totally subjective, I accept, but that's how it seems to me.
              Hubbs id say more bothered by if he did integrate more and we lost or should i say draw he`d get hammered, especially on here
              http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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              • Hubble
                Postmodernist
                • Jan 2013
                • 5616

                #457
                Originally posted by Pinkie
                Hubbs id say more bothered by if he did integrate more and we lost or should i say draw he`d get hammered, especially on here
                Fair point Pinks, but he wouldn't get any complaints with me. He's never given Shodipo or Eze a proper go in the team from my perspective, and I think that's a real shame. Plus we're crying out for some cutting edge and pace in attack.

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                • Pinkie
                  Silver Seat
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4664

                  #458
                  Originally posted by Hubble
                  Fair point Pinks, but he wouldn't get any complaints with me. He's never given Shodipo or Eze a proper go in the team from my perspective, and I think that's a real shame. Plus we're crying out for some cutting edge and pace in attack.
                  I agree with you hubbs id like to see them used more, especially when some players arent on form for the first team, as tarbie will tell you im a shodipo fan but i think theyd fit in well the way we go at teams personally.
                  http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                  • FurtiveFox
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4170

                    #459
                    Originally posted by Pinkie
                    Are you still going on?! yes les just sorts the paperwork and fine details out but just ignore that for youre own self honestly furtive i thought id give it a break as it gets seriously boring me bleating on and you going on and on on every single thread ollie hasnt a clue! its just boring everyone & should bore yerself too as ive bored myself with trying to reply just a thought......
                    Mother Holloway there you are!

                    According to your lad the process is:

                    He and Les meet. Ollie tells him types of players he would like to sign. Might throw a couple of names in while he's at it. Les goes away and consults with scouts and comes back with a list. He and Ollie agree who club should go for and off Les goes. Sounds very much like a team effort.

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                    • dogsrrs
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 6671

                      #460
                      Sh:t sh::t and moore sh:t ....... Sh:t sh:t and moore sh:t
                      Over 450 replies on a bo//ix of a post
                      Last edited by dogsrrs; 05-10-2017, 05:05 PM.

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                      • Rebel R's
                        King of Pessimism
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 12266

                        #461
                        Originally posted by dogsrrs
                        Sh:t sh::t and moore sh:t ....... Sh:t sh:t and moore sh:t
                        Over 450 replies on a bo//ix of a post
                        More ?

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                        • Tarbie
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8542

                          #462
                          Originally posted by FurtiveFox
                          Mother Holloway there you are!

                          According to your lad the process is:

                          He and Les meet. Ollie tells him types of players he would like to sign. Might throw a couple of names in while he's at it. Les goes away and consults with scouts and comes back with a list. He and Ollie agree who club should go for and off Les goes. Sounds very much like a team effort.
                          I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

                          Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

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                          • dogsrrs
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 6671

                            #463
                            Originally posted by Tarbie
                            I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

                            Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.

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                            • Pinkie
                              Silver Seat
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4664

                              #464
                              Originally posted by Tarbie
                              I think the club has been quite clear about how we operate in the transfer market. Les and the manager decide what the squad needs from a positional sense, and between them and the scouts draw up a list of targets. From there further scouting happens if necessary and Les and Lee Hoos work out which targets are viable and try to make a deal.

                              Personally I think it's pretty clear that most of the players brought in over the last year are Ollies players, even if Les has put the deal together.
                              Thanks tarbie hopefully thatll shut furtive up but i very much doubt it lol
                              http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                              • brightonr
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 10922

                                #465
                                Let's just be grateful we didn't get Gareth Southgate.

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