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  • dogsrrs
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2013
    • 6671

    #196
    Originally posted by brightonr
    Don't agree with the criticism based upon the fact that the players are young and inexperienced.

    Years ago we had the likes of Warren Neill, Ian Dawes, Peter Hucker, Paul Goddard, Clive Allen, Gary Waddock etc. etc. all settling in very well having come straight through the youth set up. I would guess that every team can cite many similar examples of their own.

    The simple fact is that these days, it's too easy for them. Far too well rewarded for far too little product. Always ready made excuses for them simply not being up to the job. What they need is proper coaching, a better understanding of their individual games and a far more settled first team in which they can build proper understandings and partnerships.

    You'll get all of that with a manager who knows what he's doing. Pretty clear to me that ours hasn't a clue.
    Those six mention came through the same youth system all british and joined older pros TEFLON has brought in at least 20 as I've stated from different leagues and different counties whoever comes in as manager also has to contend with having no forward or recognised striker
    Last edited by dogsrrs; 31-10-2016, 04:40 PM.

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    • Alanwycombe
      Silver Seat
      • Feb 2014
      • 2215

      #197
      Originally posted by HertsHoops
      Wolves are in the hunt for a new gaffer, some inspiring names being linked to them ? Which would make us invincible ?

      Sam Allardyce
      Tim Sherwood
      Nigel Pearson
      Paul Lambert
      Paul Ince
      Roberto Di Matteo
      Alan Stubbs
      Paul Trollope
      Villas Boas
      Willy Sagnol
      Dougie Freedman
      Marco Silva

      The grass isn't always greener
      Not sure about invincible but the only one I'd want from that list would be big Sam. Careful what you wish for - Les would have Timmy. I always had an eye on Stubbs in Scotland but he has disappointed.

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      • West Acton
        CCG
        • Dec 2009
        • 21475

        #198
        One of my bosses is wolves fan says they all want Ince I said REALLY!!!

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        • Kevin Mcleod
          Referee
          • Aug 2013
          • 17322

          #199
          Originally posted by Alanwycombe
          Not sure about invincible but the only one I'd want from that list would be big Sam. Careful what you wish for - Les would have Timmy. I always had an eye on Stubbs in Scotland but he has disappointed.
          I would have Pearson as well Al.
          Would make such a refreshing change that we have a manager everyone hates as per, but one who actually wins games.

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          • hal9thou
            Silver Seat
            • May 2012
            • 4258

            #200
            Re the 'wolves list'. AVB and Silva apart, the rest of it is usual suspects plus some insane thinking.

            Dougie Freedman? Jesus. How you can include someone like that (and he isn't alone) and leave out say Martinez.

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            • Kevin Mcleod
              Referee
              • Aug 2013
              • 17322

              #201
              Originally posted by West Acton
              One of my bosses is wolves fan says they all want Ince I said REALLY!!!
              Aint he bit like people calling for Ainsworth/Ollie here though. Ex player/legend?

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              • Shepherds Mush
                Platinum Seat
                • Nov 2012
                • 10325

                #202
                Originally posted by HertsHoops
                Wolves are in the hunt for a new gaffer, some inspiring names being linked to them ? Which would make us invincible ?

                Sam Allardyce
                Tim Sherwood
                Nigel Pearson
                Paul Lambert
                Paul Ince
                Roberto Di Matteo
                Alan Stubbs
                Paul Trollope
                Villas Boas
                Willy Sagnol
                Dougie Freedman
                Marco Silva

                The grass isn't always greener
                I'd go for Marco Silva but if you want Championship experience it has to be Allardyce or Pearson.

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                • hal9thou
                  Silver Seat
                  • May 2012
                  • 4258

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                  Aint he bit like people calling for Ainsworth/Ollie here though. Ex player/legend?
                  Purely sentimental appointments are to be avoided.

                  My shortlist would be:

                  Martinez

                  Silva

                  AVB

                  Paul Clement (bearing in mind the sentiment factor when interviewing)

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                  • Shepherds Mush
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 10325

                    #204
                    Originally posted by hal9thou
                    Purely sentimental appointments are to be avoided.

                    My shortlist would be:

                    Martinez

                    Silva

                    AVB

                    Paul Clement (bearing in mind the sentiment factor when interviewing)
                    Martinez aint going to leave Belgium for QPR any day soon...!

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                    • West Acton
                      CCG
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 21475

                      #205
                      Some really poor suggestions on thread. Steer well clear or Clement, Ollie, Robinson, Pearson and Martinez etc

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                      • dogsrrs
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6671

                        #206
                        I think most of those would want a descent wedge and imo only Sam might do it so I'd ignore the lot and go for Billy Davis good manager out of work with a bit to prove not without his demons tho but then we are bargain basement arn't we

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                        • West Acton
                          CCG
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 21475

                          #207
                          Originally posted by dogsrrs
                          I think most of those would want a descent wedge and imo only Sam might do it so I'd ignore the lot and go for Billy Davis good manager out of work with a bit to prove not without his demons tho but then we are bargain basement arn't we
                          Absolute A rsehole of a man but I'm with you I could see Davies working. As said before in similar mould to Warnock

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                          • Bigdave
                            Gold Seat
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5109

                            #208
                            Originally posted by West Acton
                            Some really poor suggestions on thread. Steer well clear or Clement, Ollie, Robinson, Pearson and Martinez etc
                            I don't know, something tells me Holloway would lift the whole place and in my opinion that's what this football club needs.

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                            • West Acton
                              CCG
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 21475

                              #209
                              Originally posted by Bigdave
                              I don't know, something tells me Holloway would lift the whole place and in my opinion that's what this football club needs.
                              He would lift place with witty sound bites but we don't need a comedian we need a competent manager.

                              As some said earlier towards end of his last reign was playing santos as a striker and naming seven defenders. We've been there time for Rangers fans to look to the future instead of the past. Did he also not think Brett Angel was the answer??

                              Plus if you listen to him on sky always talks total and utter S hite his day has been and gone

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                              • Kevin Mcleod
                                Referee
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 17322

                                #210
                                Originally posted by Bigdave
                                I don't know, something tells me Holloway would lift the whole place and in my opinion that's what this football club needs.
                                He could do stand up on the pitch at half time when we are playing like we were Friday night

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