Ned confirmed as captain.

[Hove Ranger]

Are there such things as objective valuations in football? Surely there will always be an element of subjectivity for various reasons

[MattyRangers]

Are there such things as objective valuations in football? Surely there will always be an element of subjectivity for various reasons

For sure.

As said above a few times, a player's valuation is quite simply whatever somebody is prepared to pay for him. You can try & compare against other transfer fees all you like, but ultimately it's totally theoretical.

[Stanley]

Are there such things as objective valuations in football?

Not objective as such. I assume they just feed all the relevant data/stats into a program to create a basic valuation algorithm.

It's the added bonuses and add-ons that massively bump up the prices to make them seem ridiculously high.

[Bigdave]

Not going by some of here's views on him, he aint worth £170k

Then there others like Nasser who would value him at £17m

[Hitman34]

If a team bids around the 1 million mark I'd say that's acceptable. His wages off the books and still anough to find a back up defender for hall and lynch.

This

[nasser95]

Then there others like Nasser who would value him at £17m

Yea mate 17mil easily

I think Ned having premier league experience, being english, decent age, captain experience and hence leadership experience (as much as some wanting to take away from it) will be enough to up the value beyond a purely talent based standpoint.

The thing about these valuations to consider is that they are valued on a global market. To a foreign club, British Homegrown players aren't valued as highly as we would value them. Hence why you can take the Wells valuation as a lowest case. Going to an english club, a homegrown players value immediately should shoot up.

As for Ned himself, I think I'd value him at 3.5mil-4mil to sell. We don't need to get rid of him, he's a great asset at this level and with all the cost cutting in other areas, his wages become manageable. With all the inflation from prem money, if a prem team comes for him, we have to negotiate it to hell.

[Hove Ranger]

Not objective as such. I assume they just feed all the relevant data/stats into a program to create a basic valuation algorithm.

It's the added bonuses and add-ons that massively bump up the prices to make them seem ridiculously high.

Then it's pointless somewhat arguing over how much someone is exactly worth as there is no objective standard . There is always an element of subjectivity so everyone will have different valuations

[qpr4life]

IMO....comes to mind. With the money in football I am never surprised.

[Stanley]

Then it's pointless somewhat arguing over how much someone is exactly worth as there is no objective standard . There is always an element of subjectivity so everyone will have different valuations

I agree to a point. I think these valuation algorithms provide a ball-park figure, so they're a useful starting point (and as Nass says, they're based on the global market, not the inflated UK one). Clubs then always raise the figure depending on how highly they value a player. The supply/demand principle is obviously also factored in.

[nanocopic]

Any premier league team I think they would expect to pay more than a million, we should be getting 3-5 for him comfortably from Bournemouth. Any less and I cant see why we would sell, uunless JFH thinks we have enough defenders, just not worth it as cant bring in anyone else as good for a.million.

[Hove Ranger]

I agree to a point. I think these valuation algorithms provide a ball-park figure, so they're a useful starting point (and as Nass says, they're based on the global market, not the inflated UK one). Clubs then always raise the figure depending on how highly they value a player. The supply/demand principle is obviously also factored in.

Hence my use of the word exact.

What do you disagree with mate?

[Stanley]

Hence my use of the word exact.

What do you disagree with mate?

Oh yes, fully agree it can never be exact mate.

[hal9thou]

The virtual world and the real one seem further apart every day.

Just like anyone else, a footballer is worth what someone is prepared to pay for their services. The problem being that back on earth the variable parameters are massive: agents, stakeholders, percentages, brand promotion deals, markets and holdings all contribute.

[nasser95]

The virtual world and the real one seem further apart every day.

Just like anyone else, a footballer is worth what someone is prepared to pay for their services. The problem being that back on earth the variable parameters are massive: agents, stakeholders, percentages, brand promotion deals, markets and holdings all contribute.

Except for the fact that the exact opposite is happening and the virtual world is getting much closer to reality, with more information available day after day and the valuations we get now, although strong estimates are also much closer than the valuations people would guess 10, 15 years ago. We get closer to it every day mate, that's the beauty of technology and open information.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Be nice to get this one over the line so we can sort out a new captain.
Really would like one of the new boys to take the job.