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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
    Don't get me wrong. As a team Iceland is in flow, but their individual players are not good at all. They dribble themselves in tight places, lose possession easily and all the time. It's no coincidence they are amateurs or does not get playing time in any better league. Soon they are forgotten as individual players, but maybe not as a team.


    And what do you think football is about.....

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  • Martinmalta
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    Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
    Iceland played poor football and their players didn't seem to be very talented. Wait 2-3 years and no-one will remember any Icelandic player.
    I disagree with you. I think all this Iceland team will be remembered for many and many years to come. Just look at the humiliation England suffered against the USA way back in the fifties and its still talked about when World Cup history is mentioned. This defeat was even worse! You mention talent, however, talent alone is not enough. You have to merge talent with ambition, fight, togetherness, discipline, never say never attitude until the final whistle. On this site we discussed at length Adel Taarabt. How talented he was etc etc. However he lacks the most important aspect of a winner.....all the credentials mentioned previously. England cannot play with names. N.I., Wales and the Republic do not have the big names England posses. However they graft, work harder, put in tackles, never give up. Did you watched any of these aspects in the England team? I say, play the second quality of English players and they will do better.

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  • swede
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    Originally posted by vanhoop
    Swedish league ? My god we lost to some real #### tonight . Norway didn't qualify along with another posters Malta but Sweden were worse than England .always fancy themselves the but rarely deliver apart from the birds .


    That's England if you exclude the words regarding the birds.

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  • swede
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    [QUOTE=Timmy the Doc;1542165]Don't get me wrong. As a team Iceland is in flow, but their individual players are not good at all. They dribble themselves in tight places, lose possession easily and all the time. It's no coincidence they are amateurs or does not get playing time in any better league. Soon they are forgotten as individual players, but maybe not as a team.[/QUOTE

    The Iceland players knows that the team is no 1 and the individual can never be no 1 if you want to reach the teams full potential. The english team is, when it really counts, anxious and afraid of losing. Also theyre not as good as the best teams in Europe. England are as individuals and as a team average. The media is creating the hype, but they simply dont have enough ability. Lack of ability and negative effects of the hype from the media = The performance of the English national team at the Euros and at WC:s.

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by MattyRangers
    Tbh mate, expecting our national team to have enough to beat Iceland is not arrogant at all. Also, everybody I spoke to / media I heard was saying all along how they thought it would be a tough game, I, personally, didn't witness any arrogance at all on our part?
    Of course it is. Shouldn't expect to beat any team that qualify for the finals of a major tournament - especially from a tougher qualifying group than we had.

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  • Timmy the Doc
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    Originally posted by hh9
    Iceland might be playing poor football in you opinion but they are in the last eight doing that and they have played better teams than England in the process if you use the fifa list for Europe
    England has played no 21 Russia, no 18 Wales, no 16 Slovakia and no 24 Iceland
    Iceland has played no 4 Portugal, no 13 Hungary, No 5 Austria and no 6 England
    NO team in EURO 16 has played so many highly ranked teams using the fifa list
    Don't get me wrong. As a team Iceland is in flow, but their individual players are not good at all. They dribble themselves in tight places, lose possession easily and all the time. It's no coincidence they are amateurs or does not get playing time in any better league. Soon they are forgotten as individual players, but maybe not as a team.

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  • hh9
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    Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
    Iceland played poor football and their players didn't seem to be very talented. Wait 2-3 years and no-one will remember any Icelandic player.
    Iceland might be playing poor football in you opinion but they are in the last eight doing that and they have played better teams than England in the process if you use the fifa list for Europe
    England has played no 21 Russia, no 18 Wales, no 16 Slovakia and no 24 Iceland
    Iceland has played no 4 Portugal, no 13 Hungary, No 5 Austria and no 6 England
    NO team in EURO 16 has played so many highly ranked teams using the fifa list

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  • nanocopic
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    Originally posted by MattyRangers
    Tbh mate, expecting our national team to have enough to beat Iceland is not arrogant at all. Also, everybody I spoke to / media I heard was saying all along how they thought it would be a tough game, I, personally, didn't witness any arrogance at all on our part?
    Whoever interviewed Evra after France Ireland kept saying it will most likely be England and Evra called him out on it.

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  • Timmy the Doc
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    Iceland played poor football and their players didn't seem to be very talented. Wait 2-3 years and no-one will remember any Icelandic player.
    Last edited by Timmy the Doc; 28-06-2016, 03:51 PM.

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  • MattyRangers
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
    Spot on. The arrogance we have is simply embarrassing. I doubt we would have beaten Holland twice in qualifying.
    Tbh mate, expecting our national team to have enough to beat Iceland is not arrogant at all. Also, everybody I spoke to / media I heard was saying all along how they thought it would be a tough game, I, personally, didn't witness any arrogance at all on our part?

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by hh9
    Everybody in Iceland new the English team would underestimate Iceland. For 5 days all your media talked about the minnows and you know what - it sinks in.
    Spot on. The arrogance we have is simply embarrassing. I doubt we would have beaten Holland twice in qualifying.

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  • Norths
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    Talksport covering the Hodgson press conference right now.
    Roy has just said you can like it or lump it as to the job hes just done. That he is satisfied with his performance during the tournament.

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  • James1979
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    It's Iceland in the last 16 of European championship. Whether he's told or not, he should know he would be sacked after being so pathetic. If you're going to be so stubborn as he has been, claiming he was without fault and that we were going to give someone a good hiding, then you deserve all you get when you fail.

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  • jmelanie
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    Originally posted by hh9
    This says a lot where you are at. I have been following english football for a long time and you have had a lot of very good footballers and managers since your last win 50 years ago.
    The burden on the players shoulders is immence from the fan (like that one) and the the media. Watching the game last night I saw an Iclandic TEAM playing against 11-14 individuals all terrified of loosing which they did. Hart is not a bad keeper, Rooney is not that bad, Kane is not that bad, Walker is not that bad. But the burden from the media and fans was to heavy for them to shine.
    Everybody in Iceland new the English team would underestimate Iceland. For 5 days all your media talked about the minnows and you know what - it sinks in.
    Booing your team going off at half time did they play better in the second half - no but instead it lifted the Icelandic players because the boos was what were hoping for.
    Before the game it was already being said that if they lost Roy would be sacked. This does not help a team to prepare for a game. The fans don't always help but at least they have paid to watch what was a dreadful game.

    The English players had already watched Iceland and knew that they were a reasonable team. At least they did not complain when they lost, unlike Ronaldo.

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  • 12321
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    Why are England players so lacking in confidence, they almost looked frightened throughout the game

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