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  • nasser95
    Gold Seat
    • Dec 2012
    • 7216

    #46
    Originally posted by Shania
    Is he a quick player, Nasser95?? I just Wonder.
    He does seem fast enough. Not at the levels of Hoilett or Phillips but much faster than Perch or Konch
    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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    • Shania
      C Club
      • Apr 2010
      • 23696

      #47
      Ok thanks. that sounds good, we need fullbacks with speed. Not sure what Yun is doing wrong,though.

      On a second note: Just want to say that Markus Henriksen is rumoured to be on his way to Napoli.
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      • Ginger Ninja
        W12 Seat
        • Jan 2010
        • 17458

        #48
        Originally posted by Shania
        Ok thanks. that sounds good, we need fullbacks with speed. Not sure what Yun is doing wrong,though.

        On a second note: Just want to say that Markus Henriksen is rumoured to be on his way to Napoli.
        Yun is injured I believe
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        • FACTS
          Apprentice
          • Nov 2015
          • 215

          #49
          Originally posted by nasser95
          At the same time, Moyes used stats so prominently at Everton to bring them success. They did everything right with regards to stats. Ultimately, if the manager doesn't have faith in a system it won't work. Moyes did, Ferguson did, Wenger does, that's why stats work for them. Man City have one of the biggest analyst sectors in the UK. Look at the quality of their players and youth academy.
          Stats are useful but are one of many factors. Decent set of scouts is more important unless you're buying obvious choices.

          For the level they're aiming for and the money they spend Man City's recruitment has been poor imo. Aside from players who are clearly A1 (Toure, Silva, De Bruyne, Otamendi, Aguero) they've signed a lot of fraff... Fernando, Mangala, Milner, Navas, Bony, Clichy, Nasri were all overpriced and/or failed to deliver... Same for Wenger & Ferguson, they're very hit and miss...

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          • Shania
            C Club
            • Apr 2010
            • 23696

            #50
            Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
            Yun is injured I believe
            Ah, Ok!!
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            • Kevin Mcleod
              Referee
              • Aug 2013
              • 17322

              #51
              Been injured for years now hasn't he? No exaggeration either. Absolute crock who needs binning

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              • nasser95
                Gold Seat
                • Dec 2012
                • 7216

                #52
                Originally posted by FACTS
                Stats are useful but are one of many factors. Decent set of scouts is more important unless you're buying obvious choices.

                For the level they're aiming for and the money they spend Man City's recruitment has been poor imo. Aside from players who are clearly A1 (Toure, Silva, De Bruyne, Otamendi, Aguero) they've signed a lot of fraff... Fernando, Mangala, Milner, Navas, Bony, Clichy, Nasri were all overpriced and/or failed to deliver... Same for Wenger & Ferguson, they're very hit and miss...
                Surely you can't call Milner or Clichy failures when they're loved by fans there and are very much considered successes. Look even at Zabaleta, Kompany, Hart, Kolarov, Fernandinho, Roberts (fulham youngster) and so many of the players in their youth setup. Most of it is instigated by analysts.
                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                • Shania
                  C Club
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 23696

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                  Been injured for years now hasn't he? No exaggeration either. Absolute crock who needs binning
                  Think so. I`m sure I read somewhere that JFH is ready to move him on?
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                  • FACTS
                    Apprentice
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 215

                    #54
                    Originally posted by nasser95
                    Surely you can't call Milner or Clichy failures when they're loved by fans there and are very much considered successes. Look even at Zabaleta, Kompany, Hart, Kolarov, Fernandinho, Roberts (fulham youngster) and so many of the players in their youth setup. Most of it is instigated by analysts.
                    I dunno, Milner cost 26M over 5 years ago, that's a lot of money considering he's essentially a workhorse.. Fernandinho was very expensive. Roberts hasn't done anything he was/is just a good prospect..

                    Donuts get me wrong City made some good signings but considering the money they've spent the squad is poor.. Bought a lot of fraff since the takeover.

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                    • nasser95
                      Gold Seat
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7216

                      #55
                      Originally posted by FACTS
                      I dunno, Milner cost 26M over 5 years ago, that's a lot of money considering he's essentially a workhorse.. Fernandinho was very expensive. Roberts hasn't done anything he was/is just a good prospect..

                      Donuts get me wrong City made some good signings but considering the money they've spent the squad is poor.. Bought a lot of fraff since the takeover.
                      Ultimately, I'd say 26 mil is good for 4 or 5 years of football from Milner. Huge asset to any club when he plays. Fernandinho helped them to a premier league title as well so I'd call him a good value player who not many knew. There is plenty of good signings made I'd say there. Alongside that, consider that obviously stats aren't used alone, its down to scouts to then go and confirm that the player is good, etc. So ultimately, there is no reason not to have a big collection of analysts to pull data.
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • LoftusRoadLad
                        W12 Seat
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 19596

                        #56
                        Bradley Dack is a player I would like with us. Plays for Gillingham

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                        • Kevin Mcleod
                          Referee
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 17322

                          #57
                          Originally posted by LoftusRoadLad
                          Bradley Dack is a player I would like with us. Plays for Gillingham
                          Peterborough fans are not even bothered about us landing Dack.

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                          • Bluehoop
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9258

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                            Peterborough fans are not even bothered about us landing Dack.
                            #standuptocancer
                            #inyourfacecancer

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                            • nasser95
                              Gold Seat
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 7216

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                              Peterborough fans are not even bothered about us landing Dack.


                              I'll try and see what I can get on dack based on Peterborough forums as well

                              Difficult as most of my sources don't have detailed info on anything below championship quality.

                              As I said before though, don't hesitate to ask if you have any player you think the club would be interested in and assuming they are available (Prem, Champ, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A, TurkLig, MLS, Eredivisie, Russian PL, Brazilerao) I'll try and get a profile done on them.
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                              • LoftusRoadLad
                                W12 Seat
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 19596

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                                Peterborough fans are not even bothered about us landing Dack.

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