Ned, Clint & Grant Hall

[nasser95]

That's my point, psychology and attitude is maybe the biggest aspects in sports, approach awaygames with the same mindset as you do homegames, and play to your strengths. Just because there are more supporters not cheering for you doesn't mean you have to change gameplan. I give you the argument about the pitches size-differences though.

I see what you mean, but I think players have this issue from the moment they step into the new stadium. Dressing room is different and generally home teams make it as difficult for away teams as possible with the way the dressing room is, the route out. Its generally a very different experience for the away team relative to the home team.

[West Acton]

Actually pitches aren't all the same size and that brings about different styles of play, especially with our tiny pitch

I don't get why people always go on about our pitch being tiny its not and is more or less the same size as clubs who many would say have big pitches. Bigger pitch then Spurs and West Ham and on a par with Everton, Palace and Chelsea etc

1. Manchester City, The Etihad Stadium – 116.5 x 78 yards – 8932 sq.yards - Capacity: 48,000 (all seated)
The Etihad Stadium Address: Etihad Campus, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M11 3FF

2. Hull City Football Club, KC Stadium – 114 x 78 yards – 8892 sq.yards – Capacity: 25,404 (all seated)
The KC Stadium Address: The Circle, Walton St, Hull, HU3 6HU

3. Manchester United, Old Trafford 116 x 76 – 8816 sq.yards Ground – Capacity: 76,100 (all seated)
Old Trafford Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M16 0RA

4. Southampton Football Club, St Mary’s Stadium – 115 x 74.5 yards – 8740 sq.yards - Capacity: 32,690 (all seated)
St Mary’s Stadium Address: Britannia Road, Southampton, Hampshire, SO14 5FP

5. Stoke City, Britannia Stadium – 115 x 75 yards – 8625 sq.yards - Capacity: 28,383 (all seated)
Britannia Stadium Address: Stanley Matthews Way, Stoke-on-Trent, ST4 4EG

6. Newcastle United, Sports Direct Arena – 115 x 74.4 yards – 8556 sq.yards - Capacity: 52,387 (all seated)
Sports Direct Arena (St James’s Park) Address: Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE1 4ST

7. West Bromwich Albion, The Hawthorns – 115 x 74 yards – 8510 yards - Capacity: 28,003 (all seated)
The Hawthorns Stadium Address: The Hawthorns, West Bromwich, B71 4LF

8. Swansea City, Liberty Stadium, 115 x 74 yards – 8510 sq.yards – Capacity 20,500 (all seated)
Liberty Stadium Address: Landore, Swansea, SA1 2FA

9. Arsenal, Emirates Stadium – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 60,432 (all seated)
Emirates Stadium Address: Highbury House, 75 Drayton Park, London, N5 1BU

10. Sunderland, Stadium of Light – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 49,000 (all seated)
Stadium of Light Address: Sunderland, SR5 1SU

11. Burnley Football Club, Turf Moor - 115 x 73 yards – 8395 sq.yards – Capacity: 21,401 (all seated)
Turf Moor Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

12. Leicester City, King Power Stadium – 110 x 76 yards – 8360 sq.yards – Capacity 32,262 (all seated)
King Power Stadium Address:

13. Aston Villa, Villa Park – 115 x 72 yards – 8280 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,640 (all seated)
Villa Park Address: Villa Park, Birmingham, B6 6HE

14. Chelsea, Stamford Bridge – 113 x 74 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,449 (all seated)
Stamford Bridge Address: Stamford Bridge, Fulham, London, SW6 1HS

15. Liverpool FC, Anfield – 110 x 75 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 45,362 (all seated)
Anfield Stadium Address: Anfield Road, Liverpool, Merseyside, L4 0TH

16. Crystal Palace FC, Selhurst Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8140 sq.yards – Capacity: 26,309 (all seated)
Selhurst Park Address: Selhurst Park, London, SE25 6PU

17. Everton, Goodison Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8150 sq.yards - Capacity: 40,569 (all seated)
Goodison Park Stadium Address: Goodison Road, Liverpool, Mereseyside L4 4EL

18. Queens Park Rangers, Loftus Road – 112 x 72 yards – 8064 sq.yards – Capacity 19,100 (all seated)
Loftus Road Address: South Africa Road, Shepherd’s Bush, London, W12 7PJ

19. Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane- 110 x 73 yards – 8030 sq.yards - Capacity: 36,214 (all seated)
White Hart Lane Address: Bill Nicholson Way, 748 High Road, London, N17 0AP

20. West Ham United, Upton Park – 110 x 70 yards – 7700 sq.yards – Capacity: 35,016 (all seated)
Upton Park Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

[Rangers77]

I don't get why people always go on about our pitch being tiny its not and is more or less the same size as clubs who many would say have big pitches. Bigger pitch then Spurs and West Ham and on a par with Everton, Palace and Chelsea etc

1. Manchester City, The Etihad Stadium – 116.5 x 78 yards – 8932 sq.yards - Capacity: 48,000 (all seated)
The Etihad Stadium Address: Etihad Campus, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M11 3FF

2. Hull City Football Club, KC Stadium – 114 x 78 yards – 8892 sq.yards – Capacity: 25,404 (all seated)
The KC Stadium Address: The Circle, Walton St, Hull, HU3 6HU

3. Manchester United, Old Trafford 116 x 76 – 8816 sq.yards Ground – Capacity: 76,100 (all seated)
Old Trafford Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M16 0RA

4. Southampton Football Club, St Mary’s Stadium – 115 x 74.5 yards – 8740 sq.yards - Capacity: 32,690 (all seated)
St Mary’s Stadium Address: Britannia Road, Southampton, Hampshire, SO14 5FP

5. Stoke City, Britannia Stadium – 115 x 75 yards – 8625 sq.yards - Capacity: 28,383 (all seated)
Britannia Stadium Address: Stanley Matthews Way, Stoke-on-Trent, ST4 4EG

6. Newcastle United, Sports Direct Arena – 115 x 74.4 yards – 8556 sq.yards - Capacity: 52,387 (all seated)
Sports Direct Arena (St James’s Park) Address: Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE1 4ST

7. West Bromwich Albion, The Hawthorns – 115 x 74 yards – 8510 yards - Capacity: 28,003 (all seated)
The Hawthorns Stadium Address: The Hawthorns, West Bromwich, B71 4LF

8. Swansea City, Liberty Stadium, 115 x 74 yards – 8510 sq.yards – Capacity 20,500 (all seated)
Liberty Stadium Address: Landore, Swansea, SA1 2FA

9. Arsenal, Emirates Stadium – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 60,432 (all seated)
Emirates Stadium Address: Highbury House, 75 Drayton Park, London, N5 1BU

10. Sunderland, Stadium of Light – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 49,000 (all seated)
Stadium of Light Address: Sunderland, SR5 1SU

11. Burnley Football Club, Turf Moor - 115 x 73 yards – 8395 sq.yards – Capacity: 21,401 (all seated)
Turf Moor Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

12. Leicester City, King Power Stadium – 110 x 76 yards – 8360 sq.yards – Capacity 32,262 (all seated)
King Power Stadium Address:

13. Aston Villa, Villa Park – 115 x 72 yards – 8280 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,640 (all seated)
Villa Park Address: Villa Park, Birmingham, B6 6HE

14. Chelsea, Stamford Bridge – 113 x 74 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,449 (all seated)
Stamford Bridge Address: Stamford Bridge, Fulham, London, SW6 1HS

15. Liverpool FC, Anfield – 110 x 75 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 45,362 (all seated)
Anfield Stadium Address: Anfield Road, Liverpool, Merseyside, L4 0TH

16. Crystal Palace FC, Selhurst Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8140 sq.yards – Capacity: 26,309 (all seated)
Selhurst Park Address: Selhurst Park, London, SE25 6PU

17. Everton, Goodison Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8150 sq.yards - Capacity: 40,569 (all seated)
Goodison Park Stadium Address: Goodison Road, Liverpool, Mereseyside L4 4EL

18. Queens Park Rangers, Loftus Road – 112 x 72 yards – 8064 sq.yards – Capacity 19,100 (all seated)
Loftus Road Address: South Africa Road, Shepherd’s Bush, London, W12 7PJ

19. Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane- 110 x 73 yards – 8030 sq.yards - Capacity: 36,214 (all seated)
White Hart Lane Address: Bill Nicholson Way, 748 High Road, London, N17 0AP

20. West Ham United, Upton Park – 110 x 70 yards – 7700 sq.yards – Capacity: 35,016 (all seated)
Upton Park Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

Please tell me you cut and pasted this.....

[West Acton]

Please tell me you cut and pasted this.....

yes mate I can confirm I did

[Rangers77]

yes mate I can confirm I did

[Hertford Hoop]

Please tell me you cut and pasted this.....

Cut and raked the pitches

[nasser95]

I don't get why people always go on about our pitch being tiny its not and is more or less the same size as clubs who many would say have big pitches. Bigger pitch then Spurs and West Ham and on a par with Everton, Palace and Chelsea etc

1. Manchester City, The Etihad Stadium – 116.5 x 78 yards – 8932 sq.yards - Capacity: 48,000 (all seated)
The Etihad Stadium Address: Etihad Campus, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M11 3FF

2. Hull City Football Club, KC Stadium – 114 x 78 yards – 8892 sq.yards – Capacity: 25,404 (all seated)
The KC Stadium Address: The Circle, Walton St, Hull, HU3 6HU

3. Manchester United, Old Trafford 116 x 76 – 8816 sq.yards Ground – Capacity: 76,100 (all seated)
Old Trafford Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M16 0RA

4. Southampton Football Club, St Mary’s Stadium – 115 x 74.5 yards – 8740 sq.yards - Capacity: 32,690 (all seated)
St Mary’s Stadium Address: Britannia Road, Southampton, Hampshire, SO14 5FP

5. Stoke City, Britannia Stadium – 115 x 75 yards – 8625 sq.yards - Capacity: 28,383 (all seated)
Britannia Stadium Address: Stanley Matthews Way, Stoke-on-Trent, ST4 4EG

6. Newcastle United, Sports Direct Arena – 115 x 74.4 yards – 8556 sq.yards - Capacity: 52,387 (all seated)
Sports Direct Arena (St James’s Park) Address: Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE1 4ST

7. West Bromwich Albion, The Hawthorns – 115 x 74 yards – 8510 yards - Capacity: 28,003 (all seated)
The Hawthorns Stadium Address: The Hawthorns, West Bromwich, B71 4LF

8. Swansea City, Liberty Stadium, 115 x 74 yards – 8510 sq.yards – Capacity 20,500 (all seated)
Liberty Stadium Address: Landore, Swansea, SA1 2FA

9. Arsenal, Emirates Stadium – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 60,432 (all seated)
Emirates Stadium Address: Highbury House, 75 Drayton Park, London, N5 1BU

10. Sunderland, Stadium of Light – 114 x 74 yards – 8436 sq.yards - Capacity: 49,000 (all seated)
Stadium of Light Address: Sunderland, SR5 1SU

11. Burnley Football Club, Turf Moor - 115 x 73 yards – 8395 sq.yards – Capacity: 21,401 (all seated)
Turf Moor Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

12. Leicester City, King Power Stadium – 110 x 76 yards – 8360 sq.yards – Capacity 32,262 (all seated)
King Power Stadium Address:

13. Aston Villa, Villa Park – 115 x 72 yards – 8280 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,640 (all seated)
Villa Park Address: Villa Park, Birmingham, B6 6HE

14. Chelsea, Stamford Bridge – 113 x 74 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 42,449 (all seated)
Stamford Bridge Address: Stamford Bridge, Fulham, London, SW6 1HS

15. Liverpool FC, Anfield – 110 x 75 yards – 8250 sq.yards - Capacity: 45,362 (all seated)
Anfield Stadium Address: Anfield Road, Liverpool, Merseyside, L4 0TH

16. Crystal Palace FC, Selhurst Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8140 sq.yards – Capacity: 26,309 (all seated)
Selhurst Park Address: Selhurst Park, London, SE25 6PU

17. Everton, Goodison Park – 110 x 74 yards – 8150 sq.yards - Capacity: 40,569 (all seated)
Goodison Park Stadium Address: Goodison Road, Liverpool, Mereseyside L4 4EL

18. Queens Park Rangers, Loftus Road – 112 x 72 yards – 8064 sq.yards – Capacity 19,100 (all seated)
Loftus Road Address: South Africa Road, Shepherd’s Bush, London, W12 7PJ

19. Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane- 110 x 73 yards – 8030 sq.yards - Capacity: 36,214 (all seated)
White Hart Lane Address: Bill Nicholson Way, 748 High Road, London, N17 0AP

20. West Ham United, Upton Park – 110 x 70 yards – 7700 sq.yards – Capacity: 35,016 (all seated)
Upton Park Address: Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park, London, E13 9AZ

I don't think this supports the point that pitches don't have much of an effect that much. When you take it for what it is, its a table showing that we have the 3rd smallest pitch by area in the premier league last season. There is a big enough size difference to make a difference to many players. There's a reason loads of pro's bring this up, especially with relation to us. It comes down to two things for me, the way our stadium is built with everyone on top of the action and the small pitch. This makes it difficult for expansive passing play but we are slowly developing and altering our game style to work this in. But you do have to combine two factors in regarding pitch and general crowd set up which makes playing at home (for us at least) a very different experience.

[West Acton]

Ok. Never thought the man that loves the stats would deny the stats. Our pitch is not tiny as you said Nas

[Greg1882]

It's not about small or large pitches it's about players mind set and mentality . We are talking about a matter of feet not ####ing square miles . 11 against 11 one goal at each end . The only affecting factor is a lively and intimidating home crowd and even then professional sportsmen paid tens of thousands of pounds a week should be able to deal with it .

[West Acton]

It's not about small or large pitches it's about players mind set and mentality . We are talking about a matter of feet not ####ing square miles . 11 against 11 one goal at each end . The only affecting factor is a lively and intimidating home crowd and even then professional sportsmen paid tens of thousands of pounds a week should be able to deal with it .

Could not agree more. Two or three yards not enough to have significant difference

[nasser95]

Ok. Never thought the man that loves the stats would deny the stats. Our pitch is not tiny as you said Nas

The stats show exactly what I say, our pitch is tiny.

[West Acton]

The stats show exactly what I say, our pitch is tiny.

No they don't. Our pitch feels small because the stands are so close to the pitch if there was bigger run off from pitch it would feel bigger. Are west ham or Spurs classed as having tiny pitches?? Or Chelsea who are only a yard bigger in each direction. Our pitch is more or less the same as most other pitches. If our pitch was 100 by 60 then yes you would have a point it would be tiny but its not

You are allowed to be wrong every now and then Nas you don't have to argue about absolutely everything

Anyway gone

[MattyRangers]

Same back 4 that have kept consecutive clean sheets, with a midfield 4 something like Chery Sandro Fer Phillips and JET up top with Austin. That would be my side.

[qprjeff1882]

Same back 4 that have kept consecutive clean sheets, with a midfield 4 something like Chery Sandro Fer Phillips and JET up top with Austin. That would be my side.

Mine too. I think playing two defensive mids leaves us too defensive and too deep. We need to be taking the game to the opposition more and pinning them in their half.

[qprjeff1882]

CR actually said in one of his pre season interviews that he doesn't want to play with two defensive mids as it takes away from our attacking prowess and makes us too defensive as a team. But for some reason has gone back on it. Could be too apprehensive and trying to play safe like HR used to away from home.