Austin's Contract

[très bon don]

I can only think of 1 or 2 big signings that were free that fans didn't pan immediately and those were Lewandowski and Pirlo. Look at the prem examples for free transfers: Chamakh, Milner, Kolo Toure, Joe Cole, Voronin.

Surely that's because good players generally don't leave on free transfers? Toure, Chamakh, Voronin, J Cole etc. are/were either poor players or past it at the time of their transfers.

I doubt Juve fans were complaining when they signed Llorente, Pogba or Khedira on frees, and no fans in the world would be against signing De Gea or Ibrahimovic when their contracts expire next summer.

[nasser95]

Nasser much as I love your facts and figures Fredericks has now signed for two different clubs since you've had him in your sig.. Maybe time to remove him?

#KeepTheFaith We'll sign him on loan when he realises the mistake he's made

[nasser95]

I'm still disagreeing with you Nas. Firstly the TF quote at no point mentions transfers, only that the the fans are vocal which probably means they demand results not specific players. Secondly I accept that the most big teams like to spend money on players but that doesnt prevent them also signing Charlie on a free. If he gets his head down and scores 20+ goals this season (which he is more than capable of) he's 26 and English, there will be a queue of clubs fighting for his signature in the summer if he chooses to leave and I'm sure he will get a decent move.

He was discussing that the game is reliant ultimately on pleasing the fans, be it results or signings. They are the shareholders as he puts it. As for having clubs fighting for him, you are right, but how many will be the "right club". We've seen him say that he wants a club that he can actually call an improvement on his stature right now, very few will match that. Living in london is probably quite important which already brings it down to 5 clubs. Palace aren't a club I envisage him going to and I really don't think that he'd want to go to West Ham any more. That leaves Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea and I don't think he'd go to Chelsea to benchwarm. That's 2 clubs and maybe Man Utd.

[Hove Ranger]

This is a quote straight from Tony Fernandes and it without a doubt holds true for every single club in football.



Look at Barcelona and Real Madrid as examples here, they have presidential campaigns for the club and in those campaigns, the candidates will actually offer to sign the players the fans are hoping to see the club buy.

Also, Ignore them being free necessarily, top clubs have a vendetta (arsenal to a degree withheld from this criticism) against cheap signings. Fans always want the money the club earns to be reinvested into the club. Simple as that. Hence why the Glazers are hated up in manchester. They run the club like a business and make a profit, then take it out of the club for themselves.

I'm still disagreeing with you Nas. Firstly the TF quote at no point mentions transfers, only that the the fans are vocal which probably means they demand results not specific players. Secondly I accept that the most big teams like to spend money on players but that doesnt prevent them also signing Charlie on a free. If he gets his head down and scores 20+ goals this season (which he is more than capable of) he's 26 and English, there will be a queue of clubs fighting for his signature in the summer if he chooses to leave and I'm sure he will get a decent move.

[Ginger Ninja]

Nasser much as I love your facts and figures Fredericks has now signed for two different clubs since you've had him in your sig.. Maybe time to remove him?

And stick Charlie in there ahead of JET.

[Awin]

Nasser much as I love your facts and figures Fredericks has now signed for two different clubs since you've had him in your sig.. Maybe time to remove him?

[Ginger Ninja]

Nish = Nothing/Free
Tea Boy = Young person who serves tea to other people.
Liverpoool = Land of thieves in the north of england.

[dsqpr]

QPR defer Austin contract talks

http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-charlie-austin-contract-update-qpr-defer-talks-with-striker

[Kevin Mcleod]

Nish = Nothing/Free
Tea Boy = Young person who serves tea to other people.
Liverpoool = Land of thieves in the north of england.

[dsqpr]

Do you reckon liverpool would of took ings to be the tea boy if he wasnt for nishmans?

I'm gonna need a translation on this!

[Kevin Mcleod]

Do you reckon liverpool would of took ings to be the tea boy if he wasnt for nishmans?

[dsqpr]

This is a quote straight from Tony Fernandes and it without a doubt holds true for every single club in football.

Not sure that strengthens your point nasser! (Sorry Tony!)

In any case, I agree with Hove - top clubs are expected to sign top players and top players are almost never available on a free. There are many things about Charlie's situation that are very unusual, IMHO.

[nasser95]

You seem to be basing top clubs' transfer policies on what the fans want or demand which is not the case. I agree that fans always demand more but I disagree that teams do whatever they ask for. If it was the case they wouldnt be top clubs anymore as they would constantly be signing players that the manger doesn't particularly want or at least has highlighted or players that don't fit the specific system of the team. Also the reason top clubs don't seem to sign many free transfers is because it is not often that top, top players are available on a free, mainly because their current teams wouldnt want to lose them for free.

This is a quote straight from Tony Fernandes and it without a doubt holds true for every single club in football.

Two things are different from AirAsia. One is I can control almost everything in AirAsia. You can do whatever you want in football, but it's up to the eleven guys on the pitch at the end of the day, right? The second thing is, you have a very vocal bunch of shareholders - called fans. Everyone has an opinion.

Look at Barcelona and Real Madrid as examples here, they have presidential campaigns for the club and in those campaigns, the candidates will actually offer to sign the players the fans are hoping to see the club buy.

Also, Ignore them being free necessarily, top clubs have a vendetta (arsenal to a degree withheld from this criticism) against cheap signings. Fans always want the money the club earns to be reinvested into the club. Simple as that. Hence why the Glazers are hated up in manchester. They run the club like a business and make a profit, then take it out of the club for themselves.

[nasser95]

I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. I am 99% certain (would have been 100% but your clearly the 1%), that every fan of their club wants them to spend as little as possible without compromising the quality of player.

fact is Charlie will be legally allowed to talk to clubs one he is in his last 6 months of a contract. He may delay that decision to see how our season pans out, but in all likelyhood, a deal will most probably be agreed with another club in January, where he moves at the end of the season.

Still think if we do bounce back, we have a good chance of re-signing him.

This injury concern is nonsense as well.

I can only think of 1 or 2 big signings that were free that fans didn't pan immediately and those were Lewandowski and Pirlo. Look at the prem examples for free transfers: Chamakh, Milner, Kolo Toure, Joe Cole, Voronin.

That 99% certainty is only for clubs our size or slightly bigger. When you look at the really big clubs (man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham), their fans get sickened when the club buys on the cheap. At the end of the day, fickle fans are fickle and they will put value as an indication of quality. I don't get how you don't see that. You just have to look at the examples above and the numerous others.

[Shania]

How can yohu say that? Nobody knows how he would play in the CL. Each time he has been asked to step up, he has done it. You can´t argue with that. I think he would step up again, and be massive in a CL team, but maybe that´s just me...

No it´s not just you, He will deliver like the rest of the QPR team will in the CL come 2019.