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  • Ramsey is god
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    Originally posted by upperloft View Post
    Let's see at the end of the season, if he does not sign a contract, think he will end up at Chelsea. Charlie Austin on a free transfer every team in the prem will want him.
    PLEASE NO! dont think i could take it if he went to them.

    Everton love a cheap deal, think he will be playing for them next year.

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  • upperloft
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    Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
    People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.
    Let's see at the end of the season, if he does not sign a contract, think he will end up at Chelsea. Charlie Austin on a free transfer every team in the prem will want him.

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  • 1QPRDK
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    Originally posted by très bon don View Post
    Any big club that wanted him imo would have already bought him. Charlie's great for the PL but he isn't going to make the difference in the Champions League, and for that reason Man Utd, Chelsea, City will not sign him.

    Wenger is very selective about who he goes for and is holding out for a TOP player á la Sanchez/Ozil. Liverpool could do with him but they only play with 1 #9 and already have Ings, Benteke, Sturridge, Origi, plus Chaz supposedly doesn't want to live up north.

    Only 'big' team that I could see going for him is Spurs, who are probably going to burn Kane out this season and need a striker./ Maybe West Ham?
    How can you say that? Nobody knows how he would play in the CL. Each time he has been asked to step up, he has done it. You can´t argue with that. I think he would step up again, and be massive in a CL team, but maybe that´s just me...

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  • Hove Ranger
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    Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
    People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.
    You seem to be basing top clubs' transfer policies on what the fans want or demand which is not the case. I agree that fans always demand more but I disagree that teams do whatever they ask for. If it was the case they wouldnt be top clubs anymore as they would constantly be signing players that the manger doesn't particularly want or at least has highlighted or players that don't fit the specific system of the team. Also the reason top clubs don't seem to sign many free transfers is because it is not often that top, top players are available on a free, mainly because their current teams wouldnt want to lose them for free.

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  • Ramsey is god
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    Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
    People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.
    I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. I am 99% certain (would have been 100% but your clearly the 1%), that every fan of their club wants them to spend as little as possible without compromising the quality of player.

    fact is Charlie will be legally allowed to talk to clubs one he is in his last 6 months of a contract. He may delay that decision to see how our season pans out, but in all likelyhood, a deal will most probably be agreed with another club in January, where he moves at the end of the season.

    Still think if we do bounce back, we have a good chance of re-signing him.

    This injury concern is nonsense as well.

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  • très bon don
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    Any big club that wanted him imo would have already bought him. Charlie's great for the PL but he isn't going to make the difference in the Champions League, and for that reason Man Utd, Chelsea, City will not sign him.

    Wenger is very selective about who he goes for and is holding out for a TOP player á la Sanchez/Ozil. Liverpool could do with him but they only play with 1 #9 and already have Ings, Benteke, Sturridge, Origi, plus Chaz supposedly doesn't want to live up north.

    Only 'big' team that I could see going for him is Spurs, who are probably going to burn Kane out this season and need a striker./ Maybe West Ham?

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  • nasser95
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    People who say big clubs are looking to sign free transfers, you have to look at the fans psychology behind these things. Most fans of big clubs naturally want to see them spend big. Free transfers are generally seen as being inferior to expensive ones. Why do you think Man Utd were reported to have paid 15-20 mil for Schweinsteiger when actually, they only paid 6 mil? And why did they spend 36mil on a French 19 year old with only 14 or so career goals instead of getting Chaz for 15 mil? Its because fans want the club to spend. Big clubs tend not to go for free transfers for that reason. Same as why Chelsea fans are getting so upset over signing Papy Djilobodji for 2.3 or so million. Its because fans see transfer value as an indication of quality. So Charlie shouldn't be - nor would I expect he is - planning on getting a quick move to a top club just because he is a free agent.

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  • Kit
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    Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View Post
    So think about it another way, Charlie doesn't sign a new contract and stays on £20k pw and thinks his got a big pay day coming, in April/May his does his shoulder again or breaks a leg etc, he then has no contract with us and no club offers him a deal and his signing on fee goes. So it will be in his interest to sign a deal doubling or more his wages with a reasonable loyalty bonus as he safe guards the next few years and with a clause he can still go if all things go well.
    Think if we do well next few games and are are still Top 4 come October, Charlie might use this logic and sign a new contract with a release cause, as it makes sense for both parties. I do though struggle to get my head around someone not being happy with 20k a week but i suppose it is all relative to his situation and of course if we want him to stay longer which of course we do, we will have to pay up.

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  • Ranger
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    Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View Post
    So think about it another way, Charlie doesn't sign a new contract and stays on £20k pw and thinks his got a big pay day coming, in April/May his does his shoulder again or breaks a leg etc, he then has no contract with us and no club offers him a deal and his signing on fee goes. So it will be in his interest to sign a deal doubling or more his wages with a reasonable loyalty bonus as he safe guards the next few years and with a clause he can still go if all things go well.
    good point hope he thinks like this he would probably want a low buy out fee 12 mil but a good season in the championship and he will add to his value

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  • swede
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    Faurlin got a new contract with an ACL- injury, why should not C be offered the same. No danger in waiting - good for him, bad for us.

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
    Gary is right. What is it some fans don't understand? He has been offered contracts repeatedly and has turned them down. Just be glad to have him for another season.
    Who have taken the opposite stance? Besides, this is a forum where fans have different opinions on many matters. Just my opinion.

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  • Rich
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    The obvious downside to us fans and QPR to CA not signing a new contract if January comes and goes is that he might not be the player we know if the risk of injury and a year without a contract anywhere is on his mind.....

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  • dsqpr
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    Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View Post
    So think about it another way, Charlie doesn't sign a new contract and stays on £20k pw and thinks his got a big pay day coming, in April/May his does his shoulder again or breaks a leg etc, he then has no contract with us and no club offers him a deal and his signing on fee goes. So it will be in his interest to sign a deal doubling or more his wages with a reasonable loyalty bonus as he safe guards the next few years and with a clause he can still go if all things go well.
    Even if he doesn't do his shoulder in, I wonder how big that pay day will be. I can't see a signing bonus being anywhere close to £5m when teams don't even think he is worth a £15m transfer fee! By running down his contract he is gambling big time. I guess the flip side is whether we are even willing to offer him a new contract as we would certainly have to pay him Premier League wages in order for him to even consider it. In which case, if we don't go up we will be as keen to sell him (to reduce our wage bill) as he would be to move to the PL. So, I see lots of common ground for contract negotiations with Charlie.

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  • QPRWEBBIE
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    So think about it another way, Charlie doesn't sign a new contract and stays on £20k pw and thinks his got a big pay day coming, in April/May his does his shoulder again or breaks a leg etc, he then has no contract with us and no club offers him a deal and his signing on fee goes. So it will be in his interest to sign a deal doubling or more his wages with a reasonable loyalty bonus as he safe guards the next few years and with a clause he can still go if all things go well.

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  • upperloft
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    Doubt he will sign a contract. He could earn an enormous amount as a free agent, I'm talking amounts that we can't get near, especially if he has a good season. Think it would be great if he signs a new deal, just can't see it.

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