Remaining mercenaries

[West London is Rss]

"we have been utterley screwed over by fernandes"........... hence my reply you numpty.

go ask mummy for some chocolate coins and take a 5 minute time out.

screaming for peoples heads all the time, absolutely pathetic. Les has had 1 transfer window....... Done pretty well from where im sitting, but you want him gone?

Got another whopper here i see.

How on earth did you get 'we have been utterley screwed over by TF' as me blaming him for last night... I was talking about in general... So before you start throwing insults around............

I want Les gone as well now do I? Where are you getting all this from?

All ive said is TF has screwed us over in his tenure.. never said i want Les gone or that i blame TF for last nights performance.

[mrbourne21]

True mate true, just cannot describe the anger i had for getting knocked out by league 2 opposition AGAIN. Absolute disgrace mate

I agree it not good but I think the team Ramsey put out should have won not with ease but won , for me this has a little bit of ramsey saying too the board look need a few players as our squad is not quite there , also it shown Ramsey maybe cox and furlong need to be loaned out for the season so he probably got a lot more answers in defeat then if he won , I used to get the hump over results like you but in the end I thought what he point we rangers it how we roll we balls up most things even when it seems it impossible.

[Ramsey is god]

Got another whopper here i see.

How on earth did you get 'we have been utterley screwed over by TF' as me blaming him for last night... I was talking about in general... So before you start throwing insults around............

I want Les gone as well now do I? Where are you getting all this from?

All ive said is TF has screwed us over in his tenure.. never said i want Les gone or that i blame TF for last nights performance.

I may actually be ranting at you, when it was in fact another poster on another thread lol. Apologies

I do think this bashing of Fernandes is ridiculous though. I love the bloke and clearly he only wants good things for the club.

[West London is Rss]

I may actually be ranting at you, when it was in fact another poster on another thread lol. Apologies

I do think this bashing of Fernandes is ridiculous though. I love the bloke and clearly he only wants good things for the club.

There comes a time though when you have to weigh up whether being a nice guy and wanting good things is enough.
Nice bloke yes but he cant run a football club hence why Les has come in.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Got another whopper here i see.

How on earth did you get 'we have been utterley screwed over by TF' as me blaming him for last night... I was talking about in general... So before you start throwing insults around............

I want Les gone as well now do I? Where are you getting all this from?

All ive said is TF has screwed us over in his tenure.. never said i want Les gone or that i blame TF for last nights performance.

Screwed 'us' over how? Did you lend him a few million mucker?

[Ramsey is god]

There comes a time though when you have to weigh up whether being a nice guy and wanting good things is enough.
Nice bloke yes but he cant run a football club hence why Les has come in.

It just looks like the bloke cant win. People slating the way he was buying big name players on big money........ so he changes his ethos and then people not happY that we aint spending any money. Has appointed people who care about the club as we had a reputation of having people who didnt care about us.

Think he got taken for a ride under Harry and Hughes, but many owners before have been mugged by HR

[West London is Rss]

Screwed 'us' over how? Did you lend him a few million mucker?

Do we have to go over this... In his tenure, we have had two relegations, 4 managers, numerous embarrassments on social media, an £8m FFP fine which could of been more, about 70 players play for us and an illegal immigrant playing for us. I could go into each in more detail but i feel its been covered!

Just cos he is a nice guy and its his money thrown down the toilet doesnt mean we forgive him again and again.

[West London is Rss]

It just looks like the bloke cant win. People slating the way he was buying big name players on big money........ so he changes his ethos and then people not happY that we aint spending any money. Has appointed people who care about the club as we had a reputation of having people who didnt care about us.

Think he got taken for a ride under Harry and Hughes, but many owners before have been mugged by HR

I used to be of this opinion but i cant defend him anymore. Theres just been too many mistakes for me to back him when people speak about him.
I like the guy but we are where we are because of him, he employed the managers, listened to agents, employed phil beard etc.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Relegation and going straight back does no harm whatsoever. Four managers happens to bigger clubs than ours. His tweets dont make me embarrassed, the west ham chairman tweets more than tf. Forest got a transfer embargo so did Blackburn cos the ffp rules are so misleading, and we havent, and sandra wasnt illegal or we would of got nicked.
Its easy to put a downer on anything if you are determined to, same the other way around. You really took that defeat hard last night didnt you, did you go?

[QPR Richard]

Got another whopper here i see.

How on earth did you get 'we have been utterley screwed over by TF' as me blaming him for last night... I was talking about in general... So before you start throwing insults around............

I want Les gone as well now do I? Where are you getting all this from?

All ive said is TF has screwed us over in his tenure.. never said i want Les gone or that i blame TF for last nights performance.

So TF has screwed us over has he? How? Asset stripped us? Sold all our star players and lined his own pockets? Mortgaged the stadium? Refused to invest in the squad? Doesn't want to improve the infrastructure such as new training ground and stadium? Robbed us blind at the turnstile? Massively increased the cost of a pie and a pint on match days?

I'm genuinely interested to know what evidence you have to back up your claim.

[West London is Rss]

I am constantly amazed that still nowadays there are fans that love Fernandes as much as they did on day one.

People who criticize him are never going to win because there are still so many that love him!

When i say 'screwed' us over, i mean the mistakes made, where we are now etc. etc. We've gone from champions in 2011 and having it all at our feet to having to build totally from the ground up again in 2015.

[Ramsey is god]

Do we have to go over this... In his tenure, we have had two relegations, 4 managers, numerous embarrassments on social media, an £8m FFP fine which could of been more, about 70 players play for us and an illegal immigrant playing for us. I could go into each in more detail but i feel its been covered!

Just cos he is a nice guy and its his money thrown down the toilet doesnt mean we forgive him again and again.

You can look at it both ways.

Got us promoted, gave me the best football day out i have ever had, had as many managers in his tenure as we had in about 3 months under the previous owner.

He hasnt actually screwed you over at all has he. How much has he cost you? he reduced season ticket prices, kept them at a reasonable level when other would have increased. He took a gamble, that by buying big name players they would propel us up the league and thus the money follows. Too many people happy to settle for mediocrity, at least he gave it a go and will continue to in the future.

[QPR Richard]

I am constantly amazed that still nowadays there are fans that love Fernandes as much as they did on day one.

People who criticize him are never going to win because there are still so many that love him!

When i say 'screwed' us over, i mean the mistakes made, where we are now etc. etc. We've gone from champions in 2011 and having it all at our feet to having to build totally from the ground up again in 2015.

I don't think TF screwed us over. I'd say it was the likes of Hughes HR and the advisors. Both of those two managers came with good reputations in the game. TF sanctioned the spending required by those managers. He wasn't responsible for the dross that was served up.

You're quick to apportion the blame solely on one man, but you conveniently forget there are four shareholders of the club.

[Kevin Mcleod]

You can look at it both ways.

Got us promoted, gave me the best football day out i have ever had, had as many managers in his tenure as we had in about 3 months under the previous owner.

He hasnt actually screwed you over at all has he. How much has he cost you? he reduced season ticket prices, kept them at a reasonable level when other would have increased. He took a gamble, that by buying big name players they would propel us up the league and thus the money follows. Too many people happy to settle for mediocrity, at least he gave it a go and will continue to in the future.

Best post ive read today, will read again.

[West London is Rss]

I think its mainly because he has always said 'the buck stops with me'. There are other factors for his poor tenure but he is head honcho IMO and therefore should carry the can. I'm glad Les has now come in to rescue it!