Who are all these teams a lot of our negative fans fear or

[Ginger Ninja]

Haha cheers for the heads up Ginj lol

I couldn't resist mate lol

[vanhoop]

We're batter them all ,forward thinking

[bakes8]

We keep Austin and Phillips then we're top 2. Sell them and we should still be top 6 if we get a couple of half decent replacements. IMO

[dogsrrs]

This league is not for the predictable I can see 16 sides I wouldn't bet for or against , this can be the toughest league in the world or can be plss poor last seasons challengers might flop this time around , last season it was strong , coming up to Easter you couldn't name the 3 that would get up
Bear in mind none of us know anything about our starting 11 or how we are going to shape up

[QPRDave]

This league is not for the predictable I can see 16 sides I wouldn't bet for or against , this can be the toughest league in the world or can be plss poor last seasons challengers might flop this time around , last season it was strong , coming up to Easter you couldn't name the 3 that would get up
Bear in mind none of us know anything about our starting 11 or how we are going to shape up

Spot on ...imo can see all three promoted teams doing well, Wolves,Leeds,Blackburn,Bolton,Brentford,Fulham,Bur nley,Derby,Hull,Middlesbrough,Sheff Wed all right now potential ...Of course there's
others that imo could be hit & miss Ipswich,Cardiff,Charlton, Forest, Us, Reading.
Which only leaves Rotherham, Birmingham,Huddersfield and Brighton who I don't think will be up to it.
Admittedly things could change with personnel leaving or joining at all clubs. But those top 14 I think have a very good chance, either
momentum, or good goalscorers etc...

[nasser95]

Fulham will be better this year, Boro, Ipswich, in fact i think this is a very hard league this year , good quality in there.

If Fulham aren't better, they'd be relegated, doesn't make them better than us. Ipswich might be decent and same with boro but honestly, are they really going to be as good as us? I think people are really overestimating the league to overcompensate for the fact that we actually are going into a season surprisingly well prepared.

[winalotto]

If Fulham aren't better, they'd be relegated, doesn't make them better than us. Ipswich might be decent and same with boro but honestly, are they really going to be as good as us? I think people are really overestimating the league to overcompensate for the fact that we actually are going into a season surprisingly well prepared.

No the real problem is fans underestimating this league, as i already said this bigger better is a fans rally cry, i'm saying this is a far stronger league than people think ( not technical) much harder to predict results, i bet with say 6 games to go there will be no more than 6/7 points covering the team say 4th from bottom and the team sitting in 9/10th with an outside chance of a final play off spot , that's how tight this league is, a team bang in trouble will only be two wins a draw away from stealing a play- off place.

[maidstone_hoop]

No the real problem is fans underestimating this league, as i already said this bigger better is a fans rally cry, i'm saying this is a far stronger league than people think ( not technical) much harder to predict results, i bet with say 6 games to go there will be no more than 6/7 points covering the team say 4th from bottom and the team sitting in 9/10th with an outside chance of a final play off spot , that's how tight this league is, a team bang in trouble will only be two wins a draw away from stealing a play- off place.

I think in theory your right mate. It is a tough league and that's because there's not a lot difference between the teams and you have to earn every point. We went up last time with a very average team and missing Matty and Charlie for pretty much 15-20 games.
I still think when you have a squad like ours with a bit of extra quality I certainly think it's enough to get a top 6 position. Again I do respect your views mate but I think your over estimating a lot of teams. Most clubs will look at our squad with envy. If we have a back four of ned, caulker, yun, McCarthy or green and a new rb that is right up their with the best defence in this league. We won't let many goals in so as long as we got someone or people capable of chipping in with goals we should be right up there.
Very hard to call right now admittedly as we don't know our final said and if we somehow kept Charlie and Marty then I really don't see how we can't be favourites or certainly joint favourites.

[winalotto]

I think in theory your right mate. It is a tough league and that's because there's not a lot difference between the teams and you have to earn every point. We went up last time with a very average team and missing Matty and Charlie for pretty much 15-20 games.
I still think when you have a squad like ours with a bit of extra quality I certainly think it's enough to get a top 6 position. Again I do respect your views mate but I think your over estimating a lot of teams. Most clubs will look at our squad with envy. If we have a back four of ned, caulker, yun, McCarthy or green and a new rb that is right up their with the best defence in this league. We won't let many goals in so as long as we got someone or people capable of chipping in with goals we should be right up there.
Very hard to call right now admittedly as we don't know our final said and if we somehow kept Charlie and Marty then I really don't see how we can't be favourites or certainly joint favourites.

Yes that's a very good back five there, you need a hard working midfield in front of it , but its as good as say Boro's which was as good as anything last year , Hull City will be up there to. Burnley will miss Trippier ( who to me was there best player) but have a good replacement in Lowton, they will be a tough proposition, Ipswich will always be hard to beat under MM , But whatever happens and whoever we lose and whoever comes in it will be a battle from start to finish, thats how this league works.

[maidstone_hoop]

Yes that's a very good back five there, you need a hard working midfield in front of it , but its as good as say Boro's which was as good as anything last year , Hull City will be up there to. Burnley will miss Trippier ( who to me was there best player) but have a good replacement in Lowton, they will be a tough proposition, Ipswich will always be hard to beat under MM , But whatever happens and whoever we lose and whoever comes in it will be a battle from start to finish, thats how this league works.

Agree 100%. If the attitude isnt right or the players up for it then This league is unforgiving. Mm showed at Ipswich a team of what a team of average players can achieve through hard work.
Will be a tough season what ever the outcome and agar very hard to cal for all of us until we know our final squad.

[Shania]

If our defence will remain the same as last year, I really fear a nightmare. Not a question of other teams quality, more the fact that we tend to be our own worst enemy. Hence, I really hope Sir Les is able to bring in a few new up and coming defenders with confidence

[dogsrrs]

If our defence will remain the same as last year, I really fear a nightmare. Not a question of other teams quality, more the fact that we tend to be our own worst enemy. Hence, I really hope Sir Les is able to bring in a few new up and coming defenders with confidence

right on the button that where they have to get things right

[maidstone_hoop]

Our defence will be fine in the championship. The premier league is a whole different level. Augero, giroud, Walcott, Rooney, Costa, Kane, bony ect and midfielders of the ability of silva, Ramsey, Sanchez, schniederlin ect....

We won't come up against anything like that. Caulker and ned will do find it so much easier in the championship. Really don't get this defensive worry. Again most teams in this league would love to have them as a cb pairing.

[dogsrrs]

Our defence will be fine in the championship. The premier league is a whole different level. Augero, giroud, Walcott, Rooney, Costa, Kane, bony ect and midfielders of the ability of silva, Ramsey, Sanchez, schniederlin ect....

We won't come up against anything like that. Caulker and ned will do find it so much easier in the championship. Really don't get this defensive worry. Again most teams in this league would love to have them as a cb pairing.

Come on Maids we lost more points to thoughtless play creating mistakes than to the great strikers you have just mentioned and this lot are just as capable of being that brainless in any league they proved that in our magnificent cup runs last season

[maidstone_hoop]

Come on Maids we lost more points to thoughtless play creating mistakes than to the great strikers you have just mentioned and this lot are just as capable of being that brainless in any league they proved that in our magnificent cup runs last season

You have to look at the bigger picture and the quality of players they were up against. Also the fact that caulker had no stability in a cb pairing all year and tbh confidence was shot which is a massive part of football.

There is a massive gulf in class from the prem to championship and ned already shown before he's a top defender at this level and caulker had a mare last year but at Swansea and Cardiff before he was a different player who showed his qualities. With out doubt they are two of the best defenders in the league.