I didnt

[Bluehoop]

There is no better Centre back partnership in this league than Onuoha/Caulker. Monsters at this level. If we can keep Philips with what we've added we gotta be looking at top 6?

Personally think you are overestimating their ability and possibly underestimating the quality that others in the division might have. That however, is not a reason to throw toys out of the pram and moan about the new shirt or celebrate the fact of not renewing. Some of the modern day Rangers fans seem to be spoilt and/or fickle and it probably helps to explain why the atmosphere is sometimes so lame at Loftus Road.
Would rather have 10k loyal Rangers shouting the team home like we have had in some of our darker days than queue up to get in because so many card holders don't even know what entrance to use.
Can't wait for the first game and I really don't care if fan x or y really can't be bothered anymore because clearly they do not get what it means to be Rangers.

[maidstone_hoop]

Ned was quality at this level before and easily one of the best defenders in this league. Caulker is a little in predictable atm but if anyone saw him on loan at Swansea and then when he was at Cardiff you would know there is a really talented player there.
Also as other haves said caulker never had a solid partnership last year and could tell was shot of confidence. Dropping down a level and winning games I reckon we will see the real caulker.
Sometimes taking a step back in life will help you take two forward in the end. Imo and not bias the prospect of them two as a cb pairing is the best in the league if hang onto caulker.

I also have to say blue hoop I think allot of fans are actually under estimating us and over estimating the other teams. I look at Ipswich and moddlesborogh who everyone fancies and don't see teams full of quality. I think they are well drilled and organised but lack that little extra which i reckon we got and will get. Just my opinion though mate and interesting to see how so many of us have completely opposite views on the situation though most of us with the best interest of the club at heart.

[Harryboy]

This has to be the saddest thread I have ever read on here, crying over the new kit. Get yourself a retro shirt sharpish then get down HQ and get a season ticket, call yourself Rangers supporters don't make me laugh

[Shepherds Mush]

Ned was quality at this level before and easily one of the best defenders in this league. Caulker is a little in predictable atm but if anyone saw him on loan at Swansea and then when he was at Cardiff you would know there is a really talented player there.
Also as other haves said caulker never had a solid partnership last year and could tell was shot of confidence. Dropping down a level and winning games I reckon we will see the real caulker.
Sometimes taking a step back in life will help you take two forward in the end. Imo and not bias the prospect of them two as a cb pairing is the best in the league if hang onto caulker.

I also have to say blue hoop I think allot of fans are actually under estimating us and over estimating the other teams. I look at Ipswich and moddlesborogh who everyone fancies and don't see teams full of quality. I think they are well drilled and organised but lack that little extra which i reckon we got and will get. Just my opinion though mate and interesting to see how so many of us have completely opposite views on the situation though most of us with the best interest of the club at heart.

I am Caulkers biggest critic - the Championship is his current level - way too mistake prone for the PL and I hope he'll improve from this year IF he stays.

Agree that alongside Ned we COULD have the best CB pairing in the league.

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

This is what annoys me. A lot of our fans just seem to have got to spoilt. We haven't had it this good for years as far as I'm concerned. Been much harder times near the depths of the championship and league 1 and still loved the club and having my season ticket.
Should be behind the team always. This defeatist and throwing childish strops about not going is embarrassing imo.

I got a shot at a new career atm but means relocating down Devon for the next 3-5 years and I swear one of the reasons I'm stalling on it atm is because I can't stand the thought of not going to rangers as regularly as I want.

proper fan, man.
I moved my life and all my possessions from New York, telling my friends and family it was for work and wanting to live in the UK. But only my football mates know it was to follow the team. even thru the abs-so-lute sh1te of a season ive just seen, its been a dream come true. whatever the season....

[Bluehoop]

Ned was quality at this level before and easily one of the best defenders in this league. Caulker is a little in predictable atm but if anyone saw him on loan at Swansea and then when he was at Cardiff you would know there is a really talented player there.
Also as other haves said caulker never had a solid partnership last year and could tell was shot of confidence. Dropping down a level and winning games I reckon we will see the real caulker.
Sometimes taking a step back in life will help you take two forward in the end. Imo and not bias the prospect of them two as a cb pairing is the best in the league if hang onto caulker.

I also have to say blue hoop I think allot of fans are actually under estimating us and over estimating the other teams. I look at Ipswich and moddlesborogh who everyone fancies and don't see teams full of quality. I think they are well drilled and organised but lack that little extra which i reckon we got and will get. Just my opinion though mate and interesting to see how so many of us have completely opposite views on the situation though most of us with the best interest of the club at heart.

That is what makes the game what it is - opinions and performers. Let's be honest, who expected Matty P to become the player he was second half of last season. I don't disagree that Chief & Caulker has the potential to be the top pairing in the league but it is easy to underestimate them based on last seasons efforts

I'll still be there week in, week out and whether we finish top half or bottom half, I at least believe we are going about things in the right way for the first time in years

[Bluehoop]

proper fan, man.
I moved my life and all my possessions from New York, telling my friends and family it was for work and wanting to live in the UK. But only my football mates know it was to follow the team. even thru the abs-so-lute sh1te of a season ive just seen, its been a dream come true. whatever the season....

You saying you moved all the way over here to get a Rangers season ticket to follow the boys through thin and thinner and still got dug out by WeAre12 for being an observer from afar? Sure hope you got an apology for that faux pas

[IsleworthRanger]

You saying you moved all the way over here to get a Rangers season ticket to follow the boys through thin and thinner and still got dug out by WeAre12 for being an observer from afar? Sure hope you got an apology for that faux pas

Made me laugh out loud in the office that

[Hove Ranger]

You saying you moved all the way over here to get a Rangers season ticket to follow the boys through thin and thinner and still got dug out by WeAre12 for being an observer from afar? Sure hope you got an apology for that faux pas

He might have got Weare's old seat

[ArthurQPR_NYC]

You saying you moved all the way over here to get a Rangers season ticket to follow the boys through thin and thinner and still got dug out by WeAre12 for being an observer from afar? Sure hope you got an apology for that faux pas

haha, hasn't been the first time he specifically has had a dig at me. oh well, ya can't let that get to you.
maybe I should've just went with a simple user name.. like Arty or something. haha. whaddya say bluehoop?

[Bigdave]

I wasn't going to renew for one reason or another but have done now and although I'm not overly optimistic i am still looking forward to it.

Just love Saturday afternoons when I'm going football.

Can't beat it

[West Acton]

I wasn't going to renew for one reason or another but have done now and although I'm not overly optimistic i am still looking forward to it.

Just love Saturday afternoons when I'm going football.

Can't beat it

Good man Dave and glad you have

[stanistheman]

Personally think you are overestimating their ability and possibly underestimating the quality that others in the division might have. That however, is not a reason to throw toys out of the pram and moan about the new shirt or celebrate the fact of not renewing. Some of the modern day Rangers fans seem to be spoilt and/or fickle and it probably helps to explain why the atmosphere is sometimes so lame at Loftus Road.
Would rather have 10k loyal Rangers shouting the team home like we have had in some of our darker days than queue up to get in because so many card holders don't even know what entrance to use.
Can't wait for the first game and I really don't care if fan x or y really can't be bothered anymore because clearly they do not get what it means to be Rangers.

I've been supporting them since the 70s. I have been through the darker days.
I just happen to think that the current Board are making mistake after mistake after mistake and until they show that they have learnt from these I will feel the way I do.

They appear to have learnt nothing from the Remy situation otherwise would have put a fee and deadline on selling Austin, Fer & Phillips.

As for the kit, did they not listen to the fans' views last season about plain backs? Why have other Premiership clubs with stripe kits got them on the back too yet QPR couldn't keep their traditional hoops?
For the record, I no longer buy the shirts, but want the club to respect its traditional things like blue & white hoops.

[stanistheman]

That is what makes the game what it is - opinions and performers. Let's be honest, who expected Matty P to become the player he was second half of last season. I don't disagree that Chief & Caulker has the potential to be the top pairing in the league but it is easy to underestimate them based on last seasons efforts

I'll still be there week in, week out and whether we finish top half or bottom half, I at least believe we are going about things in the right way for the first time in years

I did. I often commented on how he wasn't given a run in the side or played in the right formation and tactics.

[West Acton]

I've been supporting them since the 70s. I have been through the darker days.
I just happen to think that the current Board are making mistake after mistake after mistake and until they show that they have learnt from these I will feel the way I do.

They appear to have learnt nothing from the Remy situation otherwise would have put a fee and deadline on selling Austin, Fer & Phillips.

As for the kit, did they not listen to the fans' views last season about plain backs? Why have other Premiership clubs with stripe kits got them on the back too yet QPR couldn't keep their traditional hoops?
For the record, I no longer buy the shirts, but want the club to respect its traditional things like blue & white hoops.

Non confrontational question Stan. If season is going well and were up there pushing and playing well will you return to the Bush??