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  • Kirill
    W12 Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 19359

    #31
    Originally posted by jmelanie
    Isn't Estonia on Russia's radar after the Ukraine.
    Hope not. You will have to ask Putin that but I doubt you'd get a straight answer .

    EDIT: We do have many pro-Russia/Soviet-minded Russian-speaking people in Estonia, they are usually very prominent during the 9 May victory celebrations and looking at them I cannot help but wonder at where will their loyalties lie if Russia instigates and supports separatist unrest in the border regions. I can only hope that they will at least choose to stay neutral if they don't feel like actively defending Estonia against such terrorism. But there of course will be among them some young idealistic idiots or thugs only too happy to take up arms, like they did in Eastern Ukraine. Our territory is smaller, our army is more effective and we have NATO units stationed so any such insurrection could and should be suppressed rapidly, irrespective of the cost in human life. This sounds cruel but the alternative would be festering anarchy, like in Ukraine, and we don't want that.
    Banning people is no longer my hobby,
    but take a look at my photo blog:

    http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

    How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
    http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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    • Stanley
      Guest
      • Mar 2009
      • 23693

      #32
      Originally posted by Kirill
      Not a fan of Russian politics and such, but I don't understand the enthusiasm of some people at the prospect of removing the 2018 WC from Russia. There isn't much time left and Russia is preparing for that event and judging by the recent Winter Olympics in Sochi they are perfectly capable of providing/adding the necessary infrastructure and ensuring everything runs smoothly. Nobody will be a winner if that event is relocated now.
      Depends where you draw the moral and ethical line. If this investigation proves that their winning bid was built on bribery and corruption then yes, definitely strip them of it. Plenty of other countries with the infrastructure already in place who can step in to host it.

      Originally posted by jmelanie
      Isn't Estonia on Russia's radar after the Ukraine.
      Either them or Finland.

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      • Kirill
        W12 Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 19359

        #33
        Originally posted by Stanley
        Either them or Finland.
        Finland no way, Russia needs little independent Finland for various reasons, this dates back to many fruitful ties from after the end of the Second World War.
        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
        but take a look at my photo blog:

        http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

        How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
        http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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        • Stanley
          Guest
          • Mar 2009
          • 23693

          #34
          Originally posted by Kirill
          Finland no way, Russia needs little independent Finland for various reasons, this dates back to many fruitful ties from after the end of the Second World War.
          But isn't it true that Vladi isn't satisfied with the position of the borderline?

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          • Kirill
            W12 Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 19359

            #35
            Originally posted by Stanley
            But isn't it true that Vladi isn't satisfied with the position of the borderline?
            Dunno, once again: ask him.
            He tells me nothing nowadays
            Banning people is no longer my hobby,
            but take a look at my photo blog:

            http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

            How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
            http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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            • Stanley
              Guest
              • Mar 2009
              • 23693

              #36
              Originally posted by Kirill
              Dunno, once again: ask him.
              He tells me nothing nowadays
              I've lost his number but I'm sure I read that somewhere.

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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #37
                The Gloves Are Off, the Die Is Cast, Tyrants Will Fall: FIFA's Jack Warner Speaks

                The former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner today made a dramatic televised address in which he claims he fears for his life and has documents directly implicating Sepp Blatter in wrongdoing.

                "I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," said Warner, who was arrested last week but later released on bail and now has an Interpol red notice issued against him. "I have kept quiet, knowing this day might come. I will do so no more. Mahatma Gandhi once said that all through history there have been tyrants, but in the end they all fall."

                The former Trinidad and Tobago minister of national security, who sat on FIFA's executive committee from 1983 to 2011, said the documents he held detailed his knowledge of international transactions "including, but not limited to, its president, Mr. Sepp Blatter. And lastly other matters involving the nation's [Trinidad and Tobago's] current prime minister."

                Sitting in an office and wearing a shiny shirt and tie in luminous green — the color of his Independent Liberal Party — Warner asked viewers to pray for him, his family and his country, while ominous music played in the background. "I reasonably actually fear for my life," he said. "Not even death will stop the avalanche that is coming. The die is cast. There can be no turning back. Let the chips fall where they fall."

                Read more: https://news.vice.com/article/the-gl...-warner-speaks

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                • Kirill
                  W12 Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 19359

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Stanley
                  The Gloves Are Off, the Die Is Cast, Tyrants Will Fall: FIFA's Jack Warner Speaks

                  The former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner today made a dramatic televised address in which he claims he fears for his life and has documents directly implicating Sepp Blatter in wrongdoing.

                  "I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," said Warner, who was arrested last week but later released on bail and now has an Interpol red notice issued against him. "I have kept quiet, knowing this day might come. I will do so no more. Mahatma Gandhi once said that all through history there have been tyrants, but in the end they all fall."

                  The former Trinidad and Tobago minister of national security, who sat on FIFA's executive committee from 1983 to 2011, said the documents he held detailed his knowledge of international transactions "including, but not limited to, its president, Mr. Sepp Blatter. And lastly other matters involving the nation's [Trinidad and Tobago's] current prime minister."

                  Sitting in an office and wearing a shiny shirt and tie in luminous green — the color of his Independent Liberal Party — Warner asked viewers to pray for him, his family and his country, while ominous music played in the background. "I reasonably actually fear for my life," he said. "Not even death will stop the avalanche that is coming. The die is cast. There can be no turning back. Let the chips fall where they fall."

                  Read more: https://news.vice.com/article/the-gl...-warner-speaks
                  This press release has been endorsed by Captain Bleeding Obvious and Foster's.
                  Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                  but take a look at my photo blog:

                  http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                  How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                  http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                  • Stanley
                    Guest
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 23693

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Kirill
                    This press release has been endorsed by Captain Bleeding Obvious and Foster's.
                    I know, but good to hear this straight from the horses mouth and all the criminal evidence now piling up on Blatter, with even his own men and whistleblowers turning on him.

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                    • Hove Ranger
                      Silver Seat
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4441

                      #40
                      Warner's obviously agreed to some sort of deal to implicate Blatter in return for a lesser punishment. He is making out his life is danger because of the truths he is unearthing and expecting some sort of sympathy when he could have raised these issues years ago. I mean he has been a FIFA executive committee member from 1983 to 2011. Its also not surprising that he has info that implicates the current trinidad prime minister when I assume he intends to run for office by conducting this public address in his political party's colours and from their office. I will be very surprised if any jail sentences are served, this is usually the case with white collar crime.

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                      • Hove Ranger
                        Silver Seat
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4441

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Kirill
                        This press release has been endorsed by Captain Bleeding Obvious and Foster's.

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                        • brightonr
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10922

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                          Warner's obviously agreed to some sort of deal to implicate Blatter in return for a lesser punishment. He is making out his life is danger because of the truths he is unearthing and expecting some sort of sympathy when he could have raised these issues years ago. I mean he has been a FIFA executive committee member from 1983 to 2011. Its also not surprising that he has info that implicates the current trinidad prime minister when I assume he intends to run for office by conducting this public address in his political party's colours and from their office. I will be very surprised if any jail sentences are served, this is usually the case with white collar crime.
                          So he's been a FIFA executive committe member for roughly the same sort of time as Redknapp has been managing football clubs.

                          I'm tempted to create a poll asking who would we trust the most.

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                          • Hove Ranger
                            Silver Seat
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4441

                            #43
                            Originally posted by brightonr
                            So he's been a FIFA executive committe member for roughly the same sort of time as Redknapp has been managing football clubs.

                            I'm tempted to create a poll asking who would we trust the most.
                            Neither personally. But I dont know that much about Warner to be fair

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                            • Kirill
                              W12 Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19359

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                              Neither personally. But I dont know that much about Warner to be fair
                              Certainly looks like an honest bloke, much like Harry.
                              Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                              but take a look at my photo blog:

                              http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                              How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                              http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                              • Bribetaker
                                Apprentice
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 19

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hove Ranger
                                Neither personally. But I dont know that much about Warner to be fair
                                CONCACAF is my home and Warner is as dirty as they come and an idiot to match.....not a good combination. I'd trust Don Corleone 1000X more than Warner.

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