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**Rangers77** · 08-04-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by 3London

its funny how people see players..clint hill was responsible for 2 of their goals last night but because he kisses the badge and is a "Proper sort" he appears to be exempt from criticism but Isla who has been one of our most consistent players all season but yes is prone to a few mistakes (as are all our defenders i would add) gets slaughtered.

Yep. It's really funny how people see players......... This is one of the dumbest post ever on here.

**3London** · 08-04-2015, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Rangers77

Yep. It's really funny how people see players......... This is one of the dumbest post ever on here.

Why is it Dumb? i don't understand? please enlighten me....

**Rangers77** · 08-04-2015, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by 3London

Why is it Dumb? i don't understand? please enlighten me....

Well, for a start, it's completely dumb to blame Clint for those two goals. We hadn't enough people back to defend the second, Sandro could have stopped the pass, and Clint did brilliantly to try to prevent the goal. Their third owed more to Caulker's poor clearance. And Bentneke did very well to score both times. And it's ignorantly dumb to beat up on someone like Clint, five years at the R's, for supposedly 'kissing the badge'. But, hey, if you prefer the likes of 'here today, gone tomorrow' Isla who kisses only his own a rse, not our badge, then be my guest.

**Harryboy** · 08-04-2015, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by 3London

Why is it Dumb? i don't understand? please enlighten me....

Here here/ I don't know how anyone can say it's a daft post, we are in a war/dog fight what ever people want to call it. if we have another Falkland's war God forbid we never do, you won't send in the TA to try and win it back, so for me isla/ useless kranjcar ain't up for the fight. There for we use our best and toughest soldiers

**Hove Ranger** · 08-04-2015, 10:23 AM

Isla isn't a RB. He is better going forward than defending. If we stay up I would rather we invested the money in a proper RB who plays there regularly and can defend as well as attack.

**Rangers77** · 08-04-2015, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Harryboy

Here here/ I don't know how anyone can say it's a daft post, we are in a war/dog fight what ever people want to call it. if we have another Falkland's war God forbid we never do, you won't send in the TA to try and win it back, so for me isla/ useless kranjcar ain't up for the fight. There for we use our best and toughest soldiers

Read the post, Harry. It's dumb. Unless you think Isla was excellent last night and two goals were down to Clint.

**Harryboy** · 08-04-2015, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Rangers77

Read the post, Harry. It's dumb. Unless you think Isla was excellent last night and two goals were down to Clint.

Clint was let down from some off our so called defence, he was put in a Gary O'neill situation but it did not come out to rosy. You no my view on isla.

**3London** · 08-04-2015, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Rangers77

Well, for a start, it's completely dumb to blame Clint for those two goals. We hadn't enough people back to defend the second, Sandro could have stopped the pass, and Clint did brilliantly to try to prevent the goal. Their third owed more to Caulker's poor clearance. And Bentneke did very well to score both times. And it's ignorantly dumb to beat up on someone like Clint, five years at the R's, for supposedly 'kissing the badge'. But, hey, if you prefer the likes of 'here today, gone tomorrow' Isla who kisses only his own a rse, not our badge, then be my guest.

Again not sure why you are being so aggressive ..unless of course you are clint hill..my point is that some are quick to blame one sort of player while cutting others a lot of slack...i am not beating up on clint but had traore or isla or caulker committed that foul or turned 3 pirouettes before benteke shot or given bacuna the freedom of the right wing in the first half then they would be absolutely slaughtered! why accuse fellow supporters of being dumb just because they have a different point to you?

**Taarabt** · 08-04-2015, 11:54 AM

He was signed on the condition he would play as a wingback in a 3-5-2 system, which was ditched about 3 games into the season. He is playing in a new league, and a new position. Give the guy a break he is trying and atleast putting a shift in.

**SuperHoopNik** · 08-04-2015, 12:07 PM

Isla's the best we have, and he is very good on his day. Rather Ned stay centre back. Ned don't get forward and support the attack like Isla does.

**SuperHoopNik** · 08-04-2015, 12:08 PM

Adel over Niko every day of the week when fit...even Hoilett. I see niko as a impact sub, always seems up for it coming on in the last 20 mins

**3London** · 08-04-2015, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Taarabt

He was signed on the condition he would play as a wingback in a 3-5-2 system, which was ditched about 3 games into the season. He is playing in a new league, and a new position. Give the guy a break he is trying and atleast putting a shift in.

I agree. It comes down to having an unbalanced squad and the insistence in Playing players out of position.

neither Fer or Krancjar are left midfielders. Both have had their best games when playing in the centre or just behind the front 2. Vargas needed to play more centrally No decent cover at either right or Left back. The squad was brought with 352 in mind and then as soon as that was abandoned it felt out of balance.

Hill by his own admission was always going to struggle at LB in the Prem. both Yun And Traore are more suited to 352 as is isla.

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