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  • Ranger
    Bronze Seat
    • Nov 2014
    • 384

    #106
    Originally posted by Greg1882
    More than happy with TF as an owner but we need a football man . A ruthless football man as chairman . David dean was mentioned the other day in a thread . Ran arsenal pretty well during a transitional period
    I think you will find that it was mitals coming in to The club that stabalised it and under tf we got the ground out of hock the abc lone ? And look what the italian and f1 guy as soon as they could sell out for a massive profit ! And you say "rangers fans make you laugh" seems like your not one of them then ?

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    • surrey_hoop
      Silver Seat
      • Jun 2014
      • 1834

      #107
      Originally posted by Ranger
      I think you will find that it was mitals coming in to The club that stabalised it and under tf we got the ground out of hock the abc lone ? And look what the italian and f1 guy as soon as they could sell out for a massive profit ! And you say "rangers fans make you laugh" seems like your not one of them then ?
      I'll respond to the parts that actually made sense....

      The Mittals stabilising the club - Yes, up to a point. Bernie and Flavio still more than did their bit financially for the football club, and kept the club largely out of the red. They may not have invested as much money in the club as Fernandes, but they ran it better - which is the whole point.

      Selling for a huge profit - how exactly is that a bad thing? The entire point of business is that you sell your assets for more than you paid for them.

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      • Kirill
        W12 Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 19359

        #108
        Originally posted by surrey_hoop
        The entire point of business is that you sell your assets for more than you paid for them.
        Has TF ever sold a business like this?
        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
        but take a look at my photo blog:

        http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

        How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
        http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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        • Greg1882
          Silver Seat
          • May 2012
          • 4704

          #109
          Originally posted by surrey_hoop
          I'll respond to the parts that actually made sense....

          The Mittals stabilising the club - Yes, up to a point. Bernie and Flavio still more than did their bit financially for the football club, and kept the club largely out of the red. They may not have invested as much money in the club as Fernandes, but they ran it better - which is the whole point.

          Selling for a huge profit - how exactly is that a bad thing? The entire point of business is that you sell your assets for more than you paid for them.
          If just like to point out I didn't write any of that so don't know why my username is included in the highlighted text you've used ?

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          • Nick
            Gold Seat
            • Oct 2013
            • 5593

            #110
            Flavio and Co were a complete comedy act, a disgrace to the club- how many managers did they go through?, well documented they were interfering with team selection, didnt have a clue what they were doing on the football side of things and the only reason we got promoted to the Premiership was simply and purely they got lucky that the next managers name out the hat (exactly the same way all the others got picked to take charge of us) was a decent one in Neil Warnock. 'He got us promoted' 'not' Flavio!! Certainly a sigh of relief when he left.
            SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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            • Kirill
              W12 Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 19359

              #111
              Originally posted by Nick
              Flavio and Co were a complete comedy act, a disgrace to the club- how many managers did they go through?
              How many has TF gone through, also in almost 4 years? Four already and definitely a fifth one coming before the 4th anniversary of the club purchase.
              Banning people is no longer my hobby,
              but take a look at my photo blog:

              http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

              How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
              http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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              • West London is Rss
                Gold Seat
                • Jun 2013
                • 6372

                #112
                It could go either way if TF leaves

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                • Nick
                  Gold Seat
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 5593

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Kirill
                  How many has TF gone through, also in almost 4 years? Four already and definitely a fifth one coming before the 4th anniversary of the club purchase.
                  2 good experienced prem managers.

                  Ramseys here to see the season out. Absolutely no point getting anyone else in, no one could turn this around now imho.
                  SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                  • surrey_hoop
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1834

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Greg1882
                    If just like to point out I didn't write any of that so don't know why my username is included in the highlighted text you've used ?
                    Technical issues I guess.

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                    • surrey_hoop
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1834

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Nick
                      Flavio and Co were a complete comedy act, a disgrace to the club- how many managers did they go through?, well documented they were interfering with team selection, didnt have a clue what they were doing on the football side of things and the only reason we got promoted to the Premiership was simply and purely they got lucky that the next managers name out the hat (exactly the same way all the others got picked to take charge of us) was a decent one in Neil Warnock. 'He got us promoted' 'not' Flavio!! Certainly a sigh of relief when he left.
                      Basically, you're saying everything that went badly during their tenure was entirely their fault, and anything that went well was nothing to do with them? Seems a little unfair to me.

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                      • Greg1882
                        Silver Seat
                        • May 2012
                        • 4704

                        #116
                        Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                        Technical issues I guess.
                        Must be

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                        • bakes8
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 4561

                          #117
                          Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                          Basically, you're saying everything that went badly during their tenure was entirely their fault, and anything that went well was nothing to do with them? Seems a little unfair to me.
                          Lets be honest here. We were on our knees before Flav came in and bought the club, absolutely on our knees.

                          Yeh the bloke was a horrible ####er, but sometimes thats whats needed to get the best out of people. Lets not re-write history and say F+B didn't get us promoted on a shoestring because they did.

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                          • Kirill
                            W12 Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19359

                            #118
                            Regarding misquoting on this thread: someone accidentally deleted too much in a quote they were replying to and then it snowballed. Just don't quote a misquoted post
                            Banning people is no longer my hobby,
                            but take a look at my photo blog:

                            http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

                            How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
                            http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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                            • Nick
                              Gold Seat
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 5593

                              #119
                              Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                              Basically, you're saying everything that went badly during their tenure was entirely their fault, and anything that went well was nothing to do with them? Seems a little unfair to me.
                              Not sure I said that, but if thats how you want to twist things, you crack on....

                              Actually used the words 'football side of things'... 10 managers in 4 years, being involved in the dressing room/team selection...
                              SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                              • Ginger Ninja
                                W12 Seat
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 17458

                                #120
                                Seen David Dein mentioned. He's an alright chairman, but if we did have him, expect extortionate ticket prices. Arsenal's are ridiculous, and they have a 60k stadium.
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