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  • nasser95
    Gold Seat
    • Dec 2012
    • 7216

    #46
    Originally posted by West Acton
    But those things are things that all managers need to cope with not just him. What about playing Phillips on the left when he has been great on the right why change a good thing, what about exposing Furlong to Sanchez midweek
    He mentioned that Isla had a strain and wasn't worth risking. Phillips on the left still got us plenty of good crosses. Don't think these are real tactical errors in truth. We need to stop looking for the smallest reason to blame him. To me, what cost us today was Rio being damningly awful and the ref in particular allowing tottenham to play their game until we got the ball and almost immediately we would get flagged up.
    BTW, out of curiosity, did anyone see pocchetino getting way too involved on the pitch twice today? surely he should have been sent off (Along with Mason)
    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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    • West Acton
      CCG
      • Dec 2009
      • 21475

      #47
      Nasser you a super upbeat and positive individual but there is no harm or disloyalty in saying something is wrong in fact there is actually positives from saying its not working as by doing so you can put in place measures to rectify the problem. Blaming luck, injuries etc etc is just burying our heads and just delaying finding the solution

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      • Shania
        C Club
        • Apr 2010
        • 23696

        #48
        Originally posted by West Acton
        But those things are things that all managers need to cope with not just him. What about playing Phillips on the left when he has been great on the right why change a good thing, what about exposing Furlong to Sanchez midweek
        Spot on.
        QPR
        Best team in the world
        Sort of

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        • nasser95
          Gold Seat
          • Dec 2012
          • 7216

          #49
          Originally posted by West Acton
          Nasser you a super upbeat and positive individual but there is no harm or disloyalty in saying something is wrong in fact there is actually positives from saying its not working as by doing so you can put in place measures to rectify the problem. Blaming luck, injuries etc etc is just burying our heads and just delaying finding the solution
          I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm saying that the problem isn't Ramsey, it is the individual who should know better on the pitch. The fact of today is that Rio was being schooled on defending from Caulker and when that happens, you know your career is farked.
          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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          • Nick
            Gold Seat
            • Oct 2013
            • 5593

            #50
            Originally posted by West Acton
            It never worked so if that is the game plan it failed
            What if we scored those chances where the ball hit the wood work or scored the penalties that should've been rewarded??

            Imho the plan is sort of working. I know that sounds focking stupid considering the 4 defeats but like mentioned before we do actually look more organised. And 'again' lost because of bad luck and bad refereeing...
            SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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            • West Acton
              CCG
              • Dec 2009
              • 21475

              #51
              Originally posted by nasser95
              He mentioned that Isla had a strain and wasn't worth risking. Phillips on the left still got us plenty of good crosses. Don't think these are real tactical errors in truth. We need to stop looking for the smallest reason to blame him. To me, what cost us today was Rio being damningly awful and the ref in particular allowing tottenham to play their game until we got the ball and almost immediately we would get flagged up.
              BTW, out of curiosity, did anyone see pocchetino getting way too involved on the pitch twice today? surely he should have been sent off (Along with Mason)
              Could not disagree more what cost us was Green flapping at yet another cross which sent us in one Nil down when it should have been all square/ Plus is crosses from the left are not half as good as the ones from the right

              How you can pinpoint Rio but ignore Green is odd

              Yes saw him going crazy when there player was down moaning the ref should have blown up what he failed to notice was that Kane his own bleeding player was the one that played on

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #52
                Originally posted by nasser95
                I'm not saying there isn't a problem. I'm saying that the problem isn't Ramsey, it is the individual who should know better on the pitch. The fact of today is that Rio was being schooled on defending from Caulker and when that happens, you know your career is farked.
                Caulker was as bad as he has been all season did you not see him present the ball to Spurs when they should have scored??? how many times did he let the ball bounce

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                • upperloft
                  Silver Seat
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1255

                  #53
                  Oh yeah, so it's CR fault? Think the damage has been done for a longtime. Think we were down before CR took over. Terrible squad, with an attitude to match.
                  C'Mon You Supaaaa!!

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                  • nasser95
                    Gold Seat
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7216

                    #54
                    Originally posted by West Acton
                    Could not disagree more what cost us was Green flapping at yet another cross which sent us in one Nil down when it should have been all square/ Plus is crosses from the left are not half as good as the ones from the right

                    How you can pinpoint Rio but ignore Green is odd

                    Yes saw him going crazy when there player was down moaning the ref should have blown up what he failed to notice was that Kane his own bleeding player was the one that played on
                    I do blame green for the first one but overall, im saying the performance of rio cost the team.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • Harryboy
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 4019

                      #55
                      He ain't doing himself any favours playing swp and toillet, surly adel, vargas, zarate can't be all injured. He as got to drop Bobby for vargas IMO
                      You Rsssssss

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                      • West Acton
                        CCG
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 21475

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Nick
                        What if we scored those chances where the ball hit the wood work or scored the penalties that should've been rewarded??

                        Imho the plan is sort of working. I know that sounds focking stupid considering the 4 defeats but like mentioned before we do actually look more organised. And 'again' lost because of bad luck and bad refereeing...
                        We do look more organised Nick but nothing other then that has changed. Working would be changing the defeats by the odd goal to draws but we still lose and make basic errors every game which cost goals

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                        • nasser95
                          Gold Seat
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7216

                          #57
                          Originally posted by West Acton
                          Caulker was as bad as he has been all season did you not see him present the ball to Spurs when they should have scored??? how many times did he let the ball bounce
                          yes I saw the one incident but i also saw numerous tackles and aerial duels being won. He defended well bar that one moment of hesitancy.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • Olly
                            Gold Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 6000

                            #58
                            Originally posted by West Acton
                            But if Harry made some of the decisions Ramsey did there would be uproar i.e. Phillips has been a different player on the right and has delivered some beautiful crosses and in recent games hes been the main threat Ramsey moves him to the left.

                            Caulker has been shocking and again today gave them a chance they should have scored from so if Nedum was fit he should have stayed at CB and Caulker dropped to the bench and Isla slotted in at RB where he has been decent enough this season. Sandro were told should not play 90mins so he takes Henry off who is arguably player of the season and leaves Sandro on all very odd decisions

                            I could go on as other said above likable fella but we don't need a likable fella we need a manager who can pull rabbits out the hat. Its all ifs and buts but Harry should have gone after West Ham and Pulis brought in
                            Was that when green played him into trouble with a short ball?

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                            • West Acton
                              CCG
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 21475

                              #59
                              Originally posted by nasser95
                              I do blame green for the first one but overall, im saying the performance of rio cost the team.
                              How is it Rio fault then??? you just said that Green cost us the first goal so how can you point the blame on one man??? and not the other who initied out backs being against the wall

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                              • West Acton
                                CCG
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 21475

                                #60
                                Originally posted by nasser95
                                yes I saw the one incident but i also saw numerous tackles and aerial duels being won. He defended well bar that one moment of hesitancy.
                                Midweek taking time on ball getting robbed off it by two Arsenal players again he got away with it. Hes not half as good as some make out hes as bad as if not worse then Rio

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