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Board Writes off 60m of QPR Debt - One for the Tony bashers

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  • Del
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 8393

    #46
    Good stuff.

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    • bakes8
      Silver Seat
      • Jan 2014
      • 4561

      #47
      Brilliant news. Well done the board and TF.... £60m lesson learned for the Shareholders, hopefully no more big money shite coming through the Loftus Rd gates anymore

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      • stanistheman
        Platinum Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 11151

        #48
        Originally posted by West London is Rss
        As it was shareholder loans it was easy to write off I suppose!

        Fantastic news... Things are on the up and we've got our Rangers back!!!!
        That is the way it should work. Afterall, it is they who took the decisions and gambles to sign the players and pay the fees wages they did. No club should ever be held responsible for the 'owners of the day' decisions.

        I would like to see a rule in place that states all funding beyond what the clubs earn is at the owners/funders own risk. This should replace FFP rules. Imagine if FFP rules had always been in place, the likes of Chelsea and Man City would not be where they are now, Blackburn and Leeds would never have won their last titles and instead we would be seeing Man Utd & Arsenal contesting title after title after title. A bit like the leagues in Scotland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Holland Greece Turkey where it is the usual 2 or perhaps 3 suspects every year.

        FFP rules prohibit another Jack Walker wishing to spend his millions to watch his club compete with and beat the best/richest clubs to the title. As long as they don't put the debt on the club, what's wrong with that?
        Last edited by stanistheman; 02-03-2015, 01:25 PM.

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        • Kirill
          W12 Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 19359

          #49
          bah humbug
          Banning people is no longer my hobby,
          but take a look at my photo blog:

          http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

          How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
          http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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          • stanistheman
            Platinum Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 11151

            #50
            Originally posted by kron-1664
            Great news, unless you are a shareholder ,
            They chose to blow £££millions on Hughes, Cisse, Cesar, Bosingwa, Park, Granero, Hoilett, Barton, SWP, A. Ferdinand, Zamora etc, so is only right that they pay for the financial losses.

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            • vblockranger
              • Mar 2009
              • 15218

              #51
              Lets all just wait and see if there isnt a clause in FFP regs that wont let us get away with this ...ahem....creative accounting. Either way its £60 million off our clubs debt so all's good. So our actual loss before they wrote of the 60 large is nearly £70 million for that year? thats the third big loss in a row isnt it?

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              • kron-1664
                Silver Seat
                • May 2009
                • 4403

                #52
                Originally posted by stanistheman
                They chose to blow £££millions on Hughes, Cisse, Cesar, Bosingwa, Park, Granero, Hoilett, Barton, SWP, A. Ferdinand, Zamora etc, so is only right that they pay for the financial losses.
                absolutely right

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                • Shepherds Mush
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 10325

                  #53
                  Originally posted by vblockranger
                  Lets all just wait and see if there isnt a clause in FFP regs that wont let us get away with this ...ahem....creative accounting. Either way its £60 million off our clubs debt so all's good. So our actual loss before they wrote of the 60 large is nearly £70 million for that year? thats the third big loss in a row isnt it?
                  Depends how the debt was "written off". They might have converted it to shares like Fulham did (I think that was about £200m!!), then the loss was only £9m

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                  • 12321
                    Silver Seat
                    • May 2012
                    • 1452

                    #54
                    Under FFP by recording a loss of nearly £70m we would have been liable for a fine of between £50m and £60m I believe, so nice symmetry

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                    • klonk
                      Silver Seat
                      • May 2011
                      • 2401

                      #55
                      Ummm... look, I really hope that the league swallow this and we only cop for a small fine, but I don't think that this is anywhere near as simple as it's being made to look like.

                      we made a £69.8m loss. Usually in accounting, written off loans can't be offset against a loss (the ffp rules specify that owners can only plough a limited amount of capital into a club (about £5m?), which is what a written off shareholder loan almost certainly must be classified as). I think that this is not the end of all this.

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                      • West London is Rss
                        Gold Seat
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 6372

                        #56
                        Abramovic has been doing this ever since he bought Chelsea.. Its what a lot of owners do in football. It was the shareholders debt and the shareholders money.. Not sure FFP can do anything at all. As others have said, even if they still fine it will be a minimal one now.

                        A club like QPR is never going to make a profit in the Premier League anymore with a stadium of 18k and premier league players demanding the wages they do.
                        Loses were and will always be expected nowadays, whilst we stay at Loftus Road.

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                        • vblockranger
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 15218

                          #57
                          Originally posted by 12321
                          Under FFP by recording a loss of nearly £70m we would have been liable for a fine of between £50m and £60m I believe, so nice symmetry
                          Yer so rather pay the £60 million off our current debt than give it away as a fine....if we get away with it! :-)

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                          • bakes8
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 4561

                            #58
                            FFP was brought in to stop teams going the way of Pomey with massive debts over the clubs head. If the Shareholders take on the debt and not the club then I see no problem.

                            Should be allowed, and we move on.........

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                            • vblockranger
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 15218

                              #59
                              Originally posted by klonk
                              Ummm... look, I really hope that the league swallow this and we only cop for a small fine, but I don't think that this is anywhere near as simple as it's being made to look like.

                              we made a £69.8m loss. Usually in accounting, written off loans can't be offset against a loss (the ffp rules specify that owners can only plough a limited amount of capital into a club (about £5m?), which is what a written off shareholder loan almost certainly must be classified as). I think that this is not the end of all this.
                              Agree...have to wait for accounts and the non PR spun version of events to come out. IF we go down then it could be a long legal battle.

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                              • Brian Wilson
                                Silver Seat
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 4400

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Hitman34

                                If he wants to show commitment to the club then he should pay for all his farming mistakes. Wipe the whole debt.
                                Did he overspend on tractors? should have bought one of those up & coming tractor brands instead of those vintage no-go-showboats

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