am I right in thinking...

[nasser95]

Yeah sort think he cost us the game today.... Yes Joey got sent off BUT we were playing Villa not City!!!! Really think we should of piled as much pressure as possible and gone for the 3 points from start to finish, not sit back and invite pressure.... IT WAS A RELEGATION MATCH!!!.... got to go for these!

.....also against Southampton when it was nill nill and we were still right in it for 3 points, but he takes of the '1 person' who was making things happen- Adel!.... (and Im not his biggest fan)

Ive got nothing against CR, he's got my up most respect/support for what he's trying to do here, especially the way he's giving our youth a proper chance to prove themselves, but he has made a few mistakes that I cant help but think have cost us already..... Like I said the guy gets all my support!!

I didn't know we were playing villa, that may be why we lost, we went to the wrong game, was supposed to be hull wasn't it?

[Shania]

Remember Charlie is just back from injury, Bobby is 100. And Taoare has pace, I thought they we ok subs, if he was holding on for the point, Hill would have been the call, I think he was hope to hit them on the break with pace!

Spot on!! This^^

[nasser95]

Can't believe some of the posts above, nothing to do with Ramsey, if you are looking for someone to blame start at Barton then have a close look at the message boards favorite Green. Does a fantastic superman impression fir their goal trouble is he's a yard away from getting the ball, all when we looked comfortable for a point.

Really? ofcourse you are gonna blame green but as far as im concerned, he made another save of the season contender about 10 seconds before. But why not totally ignore that for the sake of blaming your apparent nemesis. You wouldn't happen to be alex McCarthy in disguise would you?

[QPRDave]

Le Tiss was raving about the save Green made and before he finished describing it they scored

[Nick]

I didn't know we were playing villa, that may be why we lost, we went to the wrong game, was supposed to be hull wasn't it?

my bad!!!!.. Hull.

[Nick]

Even with 10 men away to Hull its suicidal to hold on for a point with 20 minutes to go.

And lo and behold the inevitable happens in the last minute, as per usual with us.

Exactly Stanley!!.... you just cant hold on to a draw with 10 men and for that long. Sorry you cant, you're just asking for trouble!!

[nasser95]

my bad!!!!.. Hull.

Haha its fine mate, as for your point itself, I think the subs were fine and necessary. You shouldn't ever risk going all out when you are away and down to 10 men. Imagine how bad the reaction would have been if we went all out, didn't score and conceded. I think it would have been alot worse for morale. I think as well with regards to some of the subs made, they were out of fitness concerns and injury. Yes we took off three attacking players but we brought on Traore who I will never again class as a defensive player, zarate who is a striker and doughty who was needed to plug the hole in the middle. Maybe the only thing different he could have done was bringing on vargas instead of traore but I don't think playing him on the left would be great.

[Nick]

Haha its fine mate, as for your point itself, I think the subs were fine and necessary. You shouldn't ever risk going all out when you are away and down to 10 men. Imagine how bad the reaction would have been if we went all out, didn't score and conceded. I think it would have been alot worse for morale. I think as well with regards to some of the subs made, they were out of fitness concerns and injury. Yes we took off three attacking players but we brought on Traore who I will never again class as a defensive player, zarate who is a striker and doughty who was needed to plug the hole in the middle. Maybe the only thing different he could have done was bringing on vargas instead of traore but I don't think playing him on the left would be great.

You say you dont class Traore as a defensive player but tbh mate I dont class him as a player full stop!... sorry nasser mate but I'll always stand by what I say on this one. GOT to go for the 3 points against teams at the bottom when you're in a relegation battle with them!!!..... also Vargas had to play at some point today imho!!

[nasser95]

You say you dont class Traore as a defensive player but tbh mate I dont class him as a player full stop!... sorry nasser mate but I'll always stand by what I say on this one. GOT to go for the 3 points against teams at the bottom when you're in a relegation battle with them!!!..... also Vargas had to play at some point today imho!!

Agreed to a degree on traore, in that he isn't a player at all, but at the same time, we lack left sided players, dunno if hoilett was on the bench and cba to check but he maybe would have done more. Again, in general I agree we have to go for the 3 points against teams around us but remember Wembley. It really swings either way to be honest. If the ball is cleared better after green makes that save, we won't be having this discussion. Not blaming anyone but I think we did the right thing as the other option would have gone down alot worse here.

[Nick]

Agreed to a degree on traore, in that he isn't a player at all, but at the same time, we lack left sided players, dunno if hoilett was on the bench and cba to check but he maybe would have done more. Again, in general I agree we have to go for the 3 points against teams around us but remember Wembley. It really swings either way to be honest. If the ball is cleared better after green makes that save, we won't be having this discussion. Not blaming anyone but I think we did the right thing as the other option would have gone down alot worse here.

No Hoilett wasnt even on the bench, maybe injured?.... but tbh Id of probably preferred SWP over on the left (and I really dont like him!!) Than Traore..... as for the game its self and how we should of gone about it- tactics/subs etc etc I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this 1 mate, just cant get it out of my head we gifted it to them..

[rickyranger]

Really? ofcourse you are gonna blame green but as far as im concerned, he made another save of the season contender about 10 seconds before. But why not totally ignore that for the sake of blaming your apparent nemesis. You wouldn't happen to be alex McCarthy in disguise would you?

Pointless making a good save one minute then completely loosing concentration the next, if you had been there or indeed went to matches you would understand how over rated he is. Watch match of the day he actually dived forward as the ball hit the net. Oh just a small point but Barton was also mentioned and far more at fault

[nasser95]

Pointless making a good save one minute then completely loosing concentration the next, if you had been there or indeed went to matches you would understand how over rated he is. Watch match of the day he actually dived forward as the ball hit the net. Oh just a small point but Barton was also mentioned and far more at fault

Been a season ticket holder for as many years as I can remember so I don't know what you were on about. Every single pundit agrees that he has been incredible

[Ginger Ninja]

Fact is, if he had made different subs and kept Charlie or Bobby on, and we still lost, he'd be getting pelters for not trying to hold on for a point.

[rickyranger]

Been a season ticket holder for as many years as I can remember so I don't know what you were on about. Every single pundit agrees that he has been incredible

Really! You must have selected hearing and would be why so many clubs were queuing to sign him when we allowed his contract to run down. After all there were so many wanting to sign him when West Ham did the same, we only signed him because Foster wouldn't come and even then signed another keeper after seeing him play a few games. Whilst there us always one player that gets unjustified stick, similarly there is always one who the fans only see the best in, guess Green that's player.

[BuffooneRy]

Le Tiss was raving about the save Green made and before he finished describing it they scored

I was watching and was pig sick.....!