Caulker

[Nick]

Can understand the frustration with Caulker, but look at Phillips...... look at the thread where we choose what team/line up we want for the next match. Phillips makes almost all of them..... This time only last month he would be lucky to make the bench!!!!

Caulker's still young and got bags of potential. Got to be fair to him, and give him time imo

[nasser95]

cant be an excellent defender if your decision making is horrendous IMO. Think he's been a massive disappointment so far, but about all we have so not much point complaining

By excellent defender, I mean in terms of ability. as I said, he has awful decision making which can be improved over time and with experience.

[nasser95]

This. Fella's a WUM. Reminds me of a twelve year old who thinks his team is better than anyone's.

Cheers for that mate, go join the Vblock and co brigade. I don't think I have ever heard of a positive WUM. But hey, think what you want, I don't give a ####.

[bushcelt1]

nasser explain brilliance and excellent to me in football terms please...you never commented on my previous post.

[nasser95]

nasser explain brilliance and excellent to me in football terms please...you never commented on my previous post.

Apologies mate, what I mean is relative to the standards expected at this club. I think he has a lot of potential and certainly has plenty of ability to be a top prem centre back but that won't happen until he learns some basic things like heading out instead of back into danger or not running forward and exposing the rest of the defence. Those are more to do with the mental element of the game, as I keep saying, the boy is one of the top centre backs in the league with his tackling quality, I think he has been ranked very highly on that statistically. I do blame him totally for the first and partially for the second and that doesn't change but my point is that if he learnt a few things from those around him like Rio or Henry even, he would get the right balance of ability and mindset to be a huge huge player.

[Hove Ranger]

This. Fella's a WUM. Reminds me of a twelve year old who thinks his team is better than anyone's.

[bushcelt1]

Apologies mate, what I mean is relative to the standards expected at this club. I think he has a lot of potential and certainly has plenty of ability to be a top prem centre back but that won't happen until he learns some basic things like heading out instead of back into danger or not running forward and exposing the rest of the defence. Those are more to do with the mental element of the game, as I keep saying, the boy is one of the top centre backs in the league with his tackling quality, I think he has been ranked very highly on that statistically. I do blame him totally for the first and partially for the second and that doesn't change but my point is that if he learnt a few things from those around him like Rio or Henry even, he would get the right balance of ability and mindset to be a huge huge player.

your blinded by facts nas. he is a very good championship player at the moment imo but is young enough to learn his trade and become a comfortable premiership player given the right learning. at this time he is poor at this level. try to be a little more sensible when using words that should apply to greats of the game.

[QPR Richard]

your blinded by facts nas. he is a very good championship player at the moment imo but is young enough to learn his trade and become a comfortable premiership player given the right learning. at this time he is poor at this level. try to be a little more sensible when using words that should apply to greats of the game.

Excellent, brilliant, quality, legend, all words that should apply to truly great players, not run of the mill footballers. These words get far too over used on here.

[bushcelt1]

Excellent, brilliant, quality, legend, all words that should apply to truly great players, not run of the mill footballers. These words get far too over used on here.

i'm struggling with decent.

[nasser95]

your blinded by facts nas. he is a very good championship player at the moment imo but is young enough to learn his trade and become a comfortable premiership player given the right learning. at this time he is poor at this level. try to be a little more sensible when using words that should apply to greats of the game.

Ok firstly, I don't think I have heard anyone use the phrase blinded by facts as that seems to oppose the whole point of the term. Secondly, I think that he has proven that he belongs at this level and personally, while i agree that he has made mistakes without a doubt, plenty here are blinded by that and don't realise that he has plenty of qualities. Once again, the term is used as a relative measure to the rest of the players at this level. David Luiz was a player very similar to Caulker but I personally think he and caulker are about as good as each other defensively. The difference was that Luiz was very good going forward and apparently, that is worth 50 mil for a cb and a fifpro team of the year position. He made plenty of mistakes, arguably more than caulker yet he is still considered a top defender. So IMO, caulker isn't as bad as you say he is, in fact he is a very good cb who would probably be a fixture in a europa league team.

[QPR Richard]

i'm struggling with decent.

And another one, top top.

I think you and I come from the Brian Moore generation. Kids nowadays are brought up on Jamie Redknapp!

[QPRDave]

Hang on a f**king minute
I've got Bush having a go at me on another thread for what was taking the p*ss out of other peoples views and now you and him are doing exactly this to nasser
Double standards? .....

[QPR Richard]

Hang on a f**king minute
I've got Bush having a go at me on another thread for what was taking the p*ss out of other peoples views and now you and him are doing exactly this to nasser
Double standards? .....

Who are you replying to Dave? Me?

[bushcelt1]

Ok firstly, I don't think I have heard anyone use the phrase blinded by facts as that seems to oppose the whole point of the term. Secondly, I think that he has proven that he belongs at this level and personally, while i agree that he has made mistakes without a doubt, plenty here are blinded by that and don't realise that he has plenty of qualities. Once again, the term is used as a relative measure to the rest of the players at this level. David Luiz was a player very similar to Caulker but I personally think he and caulker are about as good as each other defensively. The difference was that Luiz was very good going forward and apparently, that is worth 50 mil for a cb and a fifpro team of the year position. He made plenty of mistakes, arguably more than caulker yet he is still considered a top defender. So IMO, caulker isn't as bad as you say he is, in fact he is a very good cb who would probably be a fixture in a europa league team.

i used the comment..blinded by the facts. chelsea laughed all the way to the bank with luiz as a defender-are you suggesting we try the same?? lucky to get 4mil off a championship team never mind 50 mil off a champions lge team. stop...your digging a big hole for yourself. who is he considered a top defender by...other than you and your facts??????

[QPRDave]

no bush richard .....just pointing out that you and him are ridiculing nasser yet I'm not allowed to put across my view as i wasn't at the game or i'm taking the p*ss