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  • QPRDave
    The number 10
    • Mar 2009
    • 32065

    #1

    lex mitior...Our Saviour?

    QPR's new legal defence against the ffp rules......

    Why Queens Park Rangers believe they will escape £30m costs – the biggest Financial Fair Play fine ever levied

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...er-levied.html
  • Manx Hoop
    Manx Phenomenon
    • May 2014
    • 834

    #2
    Had you down as a daily star man dave.

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    • Lord Charles
      Bronze Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 655

      #3
      Lex Mitior: Best Signing Ever

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...er-levied.html

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      • Chunkyfenwick
        Bronze Seat
        • Jul 2012
        • 434

        #4
        Just call Saul (Goodman)

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        • Bluehoop
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 9258

          #5
          That's all well and good but why pay anything at all?

          "last week’s changes to the Championship’s rules were effectively an acknowledgment that the existing regulations are not fit for purpose".

          If the regulations are not fit for purpose, how the hell can they be applied to levy any sanctions
          #standuptocancer
          #inyourfacecancer

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          • Manx Hoop
            Manx Phenomenon
            • May 2014
            • 834

            #6
            Shouldnt the question be why should we be allowed to get promotion by cheating financially and go un-punished financially, id be ####en livered if i supported one of those other teams in the play off's.

            We owe the money, WE KNEW THE RULES WE WERE PLAYING UNDER, we dont get to pick and choose what laws we agree with, football clubs dont either.

            We bought promotion, now its time to pay the fees, and tony et al knew the under-lying cost of the fees involved.
            Last edited by Manx Hoop; 13-11-2014, 01:37 PM.

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            • bakes8
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2014
              • 4561

              #7
              Originally posted by Manx Hoop
              Shouldnt the question be why should we be allowed to get promotion by cheating financially and go un-punished financially, id be ####en livered if i supported one of those other teams in the play off's.

              We owe the money, WE KNEW THE RULES WE WERE PLAYING UNDER, we dont get to pick and choose what laws we agree with, football clubs dont either.
              Point is any club coming down from the PL won't be able to abide by the FFP laws. We dumped loads of players and loads of money off the wage-bill, but when you're left with contracted trash that you cant shift what are you to do?

              We signed Championship class players, let most if not all the PL class players leave (ones that we wanted by other clubs at least)... What else couldve been done? Yeh we might not of signed Austin and Philips but thats small change to what we owe and the tip of the iceberg to the savings we made by dumping and loaning out players.

              The FA really need to get a handle on the situation. FFP is complete ######## and everyone knows it.

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              • Manx Hoop
                Manx Phenomenon
                • May 2014
                • 834

                #8
                Excuses for bad management operating in an inadequate system, is no excuse, altho one can sympathise, and as a fan one can even hope for a loop hole to escape punishment, and the 50 mill is spent on the club instead, but that doesnt make rangers escaping sanction ok.

                The management flouted the rules, they should pay.

                I hope they wriggle off the hook, but im biased.
                Last edited by Manx Hoop; 13-11-2014, 01:48 PM.

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                • bakes8
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 4561

                  #9
                  There is no way Champ clubs can survive the move to the PL by paying Championship transfer fees and wages. The gap is far too big.

                  FFP only helps the big clubs, it does nothing for smaller clubs or clubs that aspire to better themselves. Its unfair and imo un-enforceable.

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                  • maverick69
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2029

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Manx Hoop
                    Excuses for bad management operating in an inadequate system, is no excuse, altho one can sympathise, and as a fan one can even hope for a loop hole to escape punishment, and the 50 mill is spent on the club instead, but that doesnt make rangers escaping sanction ok.

                    The management flouted the rules, they should pay.

                    I hope they wriggle off the hook, but im biased.
                    Loophole?!

                    FFP is illegal in European law - ergo it was effectively a gentlemens agreement....... and they've since renegaded on it - as described in the above article.

                    Any lawyer worth his salt would take the FL to the cleaners if they even attempted to harm a business by limiting the right to investment and improvement...... whilst having to contend with massive shifts in potential running costs from year to year.

                    The whole thing was a bunch of righteous old blokes giving each other a reach around - whilst looking at an excel spreadsheet.

                    Lol. Can you imagine it? "Hello Mr FL man. I'm a lawyer who is part of the team that represents Mr Fernandes and Mr Mittal. How would you like to pay? Cash or cheque?"

                    The FL would be bankrupt in about 10 min flat...........

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                    • maverick69
                      Silver Seat
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2029

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Manx Hoop
                      Excuses for bad management operating in an inadequate system, is no excuse, altho one can sympathise, and as a fan one can even hope for a loop hole to escape punishment, and the 50 mill is spent on the club instead, but that doesnt make rangers escaping sanction ok.

                      The management flouted the rules, they should pay.

                      I hope they wriggle off the hook, but im biased.
                      Loophole?!

                      FFP is illegal in European law - ergo it was effectively a gentlemens agreement....... and they've since renegaded on it - as described in the above article.

                      Any lawyer worth his salt would take the FL to the cleaners if they even attempted to harm a business by limiting the right to investment and improvement...... whilst having to contend with massive shifts in potential running costs from year to year.

                      The whole thing was a bunch of righteous old blokes giving each other a reach around - whilst looking at an excel spreadsheet.

                      Lol. Can you imagine it? "Hello Mr FL man. I'm a lawyer who is part of the team that represents Mr Fernandes and Mr Mittal. How would you like to pay? Cash or cheque?"

                      The FL would be bankrupt in about 10 min flat...........


                      EDIT: That's not to say that our spending has not been reckless..... Which I think it has......

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                      • QPRDave
                        The number 10
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 32065

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Manx Hoop
                        Shouldnt the question be why should we be allowed to get promotion by cheating financially and go un-punished financially, id be ####en livered if i supported one of those other teams in the play off's.

                        We owe the money, WE KNEW THE RULES WE WERE PLAYING UNDER, we dont get to pick and choose what laws we agree with, football clubs dont either.

                        We bought promotion, now its time to pay the fees, and tony et al knew the under-lying cost of the fees involved.
                        What a load of bull....can tell your an island man .....but you ain't gonna get any fish here

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                        • knocker
                          Silver Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4009

                          #13
                          Originally posted by QPRDave
                          What a load of bull....can tell your an island man .....but you ain't gonna get any fish here
                          He doesn't seem like a bundle of laughs does he.

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                          • QPR Richard
                            Gold Seat
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 6489

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Manx Hoop
                            Shouldnt the question be why should we be allowed to get promotion by cheating financially and go un-punished financially, id be ####en livered if i supported one of those other teams in the play off's.

                            We owe the money, WE KNEW THE RULES WE WERE PLAYING UNDER, we dont get to pick and choose what laws we agree with, football clubs dont either.

                            We bought promotion, now its time to pay the fees, and tony et al knew the under-lying cost of the fees involved.
                            Whose bloody side are you on???
                            Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                            • 1QPRDK
                              Silver Seat
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 2151

                              #15
                              Join date = Sour grapes in Derby
                              https://twitter.com/1qprdk

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