favoured system

[Nick]

There's a lot of talk about our formation. HR said in an interview near the end of the last transfer window that he had bought certain players in to play 3.5.2. Also bringing Hoddle in to help out, but we're only 4 games in and that idea seams to have gone out the window already.

Personally I'm torn, half of me thinks we should stick with the 3.5.2 especially if we've bought certain players to fit that particular system BUT the other is adamant that we have 4 at the back. I think its crucial that we're solid at the back and IMO 4.4.2/4.4.1.1 would suit us better definitely when Yun's fit.

So what's everyones preferred system?...... I'm going 4.4.1.1 with Vergas just behind Austin

[Robsondinho]

I would go for the 4-2-3-1, but it is finding the players to play that way. The 3 behind the 1 would be obviously very attack minded but when you do not have the ball you are expecting them to get back into a 4-4-1-1. So Say you have a Vargas or an Adel in one of the wide attacking roles you are asking them to get into 2 solid banks of 4 when we do not have the ball, which will not happen. Adel can play in the hole and have the licence to float. Vargas IMO after watching him quite abit is much better as an attacking wide player cutting in, then the other side I have no idea as no one good enough.

It's a good system but we haven't got the players to play it which is a shame. Will certainly see better attacking football. Real Madrid play it brilliantly, but of course they have world class players in every position to do it properly.

[Nick]

I would go for the 4-2-3-1, but it is finding the players to play that way. The 3 behind the 1 would be obviously very attack minded but when you do not have the ball you are expecting them to get back into a 4-4-1-1. So Say you have a Vargas or an Adel in one of the wide attacking roles you are asking them to get into 2 solid banks of 4 when we do not have the ball, which will not happen. Adel can play in the hole and have the licence to float. Vargas IMO after watching him quite abit is much better as an attacking wide player cutting in, then the other side I have no idea as no one good enough.

It's a good system but we haven't got the players to play it which is a shame. Will certainly see better attacking football. Real Madrid play it brilliantly, but of course they have world class players in every position to do it properly.

Thats another reason why I sway towards a 4.4.2/4.4.1.1. Teams like Real Madrid can play different systems because they're in a complete different class to us, like you said they've got word class players in every position. After all we're QPR, a team thats just been promoted. I think sometimes people try to be unnecessarily too clever, just keep it simple!

[nasser95]

Thats another reason why I sway towards a 4.4.2/4.4.1.1. Teams like Real Madrid can play different systems because they're in a complete different class to us, like you said they've got word class players in every position. After all we're QPR, a team thats just been promoted. I think sometimes people try to be unnecessarily too clever, just keep it simple!

We have the players for a 3 atb, we have the coaching staff for a 3 atb and yet we shouldn't play it because we lost badly to a top 6 team while playing it. Lets face it, we have to work on developing 2 different formations to play, otherwise we will be predictable. As a bottom half team, we cannot afford to be predictable. It isn't a case of one or the other, it is a case to work on both of them

[Abseits]

I'd like to at least show a bit of faith and conviction in a system. Currently we seem to start one way and finish another. You could argue that's being flexible but it smacks more of panic to me. Whatever the system, we need players to show a lot more energy - too many yesterday looked pedestrian and that renders the choice of system almost obsolete.

[Nick]

We have the players for a 3 atb, we have the coaching staff for a 3 atb and yet we shouldn't play it because we lost badly to a top 6 team while playing it. Lets face it, we have to work on developing 2 different formations to play, otherwise we will be predictable. As a bottom half team, we cannot afford to be predictable. It isn't a case of one or the other, it is a case to work on both of them

The main reason why I'd prefer 4 at the back is because we need to be solid at the back to make it/survive in the prem. A solid line of 4 is much better than 3 and 2 WB running back and forth IMO.

[hh9]

Use different systems against different opponents.
I hope it is not the truth that a professional footballer can only learn to play 1 foramtion

[hal9thou]

I'm going 4.4.1.1 with Vergas just behind Austin

That's just 4-4-2 by another name Nick. We need a bit more flexibility I reckon. 4 -2 -3 - 1 without, 4-3-3 with was what was I hoping for yesterday and I still hope that one day someone at the club will sort out tactics. ;)

[nasser95]

The main reason why I'd prefer 4 at the back is because we need to be solid at the back to make it/survive in the prem. A solid line of 4 is much better than 3 and 2 WB running back and forth IMO.

Look at our full back options, hill - no one really thinks he is good enough to start, traore - No one really thinks he is defensively sound enough to start at full back, Yun - Only player who can definitely play that role and harry wont play him, and on the right Isla - a specialist wing back. Basically at any time playing a 4atb, we would only really have two truly good defensive players, whereas with 3 at the back, we can play everyone we need in the right positions, Isla and traore are good enough in those positions, and we get all three of ned, caulker and ferdinand as well as a strong midfield 3 and we can play 2 strikers

[hh9]

Look at our full back options, hill - no one really thinks he is good enough to start, traore - No one really thinks he is defensively sound enough to start at full back, Yun - Only player who can definitely play that role and harry wont play him, and on the right Isla - a specialist wing back. Basically at any time playing a 4atb, we would only really have two truly good defensive players, whereas with 3 at the back, we can play everyone we need in the right positions, Isla and traore are good enough in those positions, and we get all three of ned, caulker and ferdinand as well as a strong midfield 3 and we can play 2 strikers

3-5-2 would have been better. Last match to many players playing out of position. We had 4 fullbacks playing at the same time, Hill, Isla, Hoilett and Phillips - none of them fullback

[QPRDave]

I think we need to try and have 2 up front......If we played a diamond with Sandro at the bottom and Kranjcar at the top, with Isla and Traore/Yun providing width from full back?
Is that too open?

[nasser95]

I think we need to try and have 2 up front......If we played a diamond with Sandro at the bottom and Kranjcar at the top, with Isla and Traore/Yun providing width from full back?
Is that too open?

but then we wouldn't have any control, all that would happen is that sandro would try to play it forward but without playmaking ability from deep, it would just go to the opposition. and then if we try to put 2 cm's either side of diamond instead of wingers, we would be allowing the opposition to run at us from the wing and get crosses in. Unfortunately for us, football these days requires control of the midfield and defensive solidity. we are not good enough to trust two people in the middle of the park to hold the ball, we need 3 there, and we are not creative enough to play enough balls forward for one striker to run onto. Thus the only real chance we have of controlling a match is a 4231 where we are unlikely to score many or a 352

[Nick]

Use different systems against different opponents.
I hope it is not the truth that a professional footballer can only learn to play 1 foramtion

Like the title says 'favoured system'

We cant go into every game with a different system. We need stability and a settled team, a favoured system. Of course we're going to swap it around when we play certain teams and also during game time but we also IMO must have a specialized formation that we use often.

[nasser95]

Like the title says 'favoured system'

We cant go into every game with a different system. We need stability and a settled team, a favoured system. Of course we're going to swap it around when we play certain teams and also during game time but we also IMO must have a specialized formation that we use often.

What I would like to see is players being able to easily move between formations throughout the matches and season. There needs to be a seamless transition from one formation to the other to the point where players are playing out instructions rather than positions. We need to be able to say that we can play a 352 and 4231 in the same match and switch whenever the situation requires, not necessarily for an opposition but also for a mentality, otherwise we will lack the ability to break teams down

[Shepherds Mush]

What I would like to see is players being able to easily move between formations throughout the matches and season. There needs to be a seamless transition from one formation to the other to the point where players are playing out instructions rather than positions. We need to be able to say that we can play a 352 and 4231 in the same match and switch whenever the situation requires, not necessarily for an opposition but also for a mentality, otherwise we will lack the ability to break teams down

Spot on. Case in point, Bournemouth away last season where they went down to 10 men and we made no change in the system to take advantage of the extra man. We need to be able to change systems according to how the game is going.