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  • East London R
    Apprentice
    • Mar 2013
    • 156

    #1

    Phillips and Hoilett let us down

    Watched the game a number of times now and what we needed yesterday was to get at Manure. The players tasked to do this were Phillips and Hoilett but they both consistently kept giving the ball away or failed to beat their man. Fer was pretty poor too although Harry said after the match that he needs games and being taken away on international duty and hardly playing did not help. This don't necessary sit well with me as he played a couple of games for Norwich who being in the Championship started their season earlier.

    I am sure I won't be popular for saying this but I don't blame Redknapps tactics for losing. You watch the start of the game and both Philips and Hoilett had opportunities but lost their individual battles thus giving possession away which allowed the Mancs to gain confidence and be more positive.

    We need a reaction from the team Saturday and must get some form together at home to have any chance of staying in this division.
  • Nick
    Gold Seat
    • Oct 2013
    • 5593

    #2
    "Watched the game a number of times now"

    WHY??????????
    SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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    • zeberdee
      Silver Seat
      • Nov 2012
      • 1599

      #3
      Phillips and Hoilett delivered very little last season in the Championship - they managed a handful of goals and assists between them - Traore and SWP were the same - So I dont expect many goals or assists from any of them this season because the EPL is far harder to play in - none of that is a surprise, it was clear at the end of last season - cant expect them to start scoring now - the surprise is that anybody is still trying to get goals out of them

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      • West London is Rss
        Gold Seat
        • Jun 2013
        • 6372

        #4
        Oh Jeeeeezzzusss Christ.. lets slate the whole team again shall we? Every fan.. Lets even start digging out bad performances from last season because everyone is so over emotional about yesterdays defeat... This is all achieving very little. United away is not the game we should be looking at points from. and slating the players so heavily over it is going to have a damning affect on them RE: confidence for Saturday.

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        • East London R
          Apprentice
          • Mar 2013
          • 156

          #5
          Based upon what you are saying why are they playing then? I don't rate either as goal scorers but feel on their day they can beat their man and create chances, especially Hoilett. I still hold out hope that both of them will be useful assets for us this season.
          WL is Rs - Relax! You'll give yourself a heart attack mate. I agree about not expecting anything from Utd but their performances were the key to what went wrong yesterday in my opinion. Not our negative set up etc etc

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          • West London is Rss
            Gold Seat
            • Jun 2013
            • 6372

            #6
            Originally posted by East London R
            Based upon what you are saying why are they playing then? I don't rate either as goal scorers but feel on their day they can beat their man and create chances, especially Hoilett. I still hold out hope that both of them will be useful assets for us this season.
            WL is Rs - Relax! You'll give yourself a heart attack mate. I agree about not expecting anything from Utd but their performances were the key to what went wrong yesterday in my opinion. Not our negative set up etc etc
            I just keep getting the same questions in my head when I look at rangers fans opinions on yesterday... what did you expect?

            You can say effort etc etc. But I honestly think the fans slating the team were looking for a bl00dy result!!

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            • East London R
              Apprentice
              • Mar 2013
              • 156

              #7
              No mate I honestly did not expect a result and with all the hype and new players it made Man U even more up for it. I'm with you in saying these games will not determine our season.

              I think we will be ok this season. I know that Mutch, Fer and Caulker aren't getting great reviews at the moment but they were all top performers amongst their teams last season and with time will deliver for us too. We just need to give them some time.

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              • West London is Rss
                Gold Seat
                • Jun 2013
                • 6372

                #8
                Originally posted by East London R
                No mate I honestly did not expect a result and with all the hype and new players it made Man U even more up for it. I'm with you in saying these games will not determine our season.

                I think we will be ok this season. I know that Mutch, Fer and Caulker aren't getting great reviews at the moment but they were all top performers amongst their teams last season and with time will deliver for us too. We just need to give them some time.
                I personally think it was HR's tactics again yesterday.. I like the look of our squad but if anyone should answer to the way we have played against the top sides its HR.
                It seems to have been 1 step forward 2 steps back with HR.. every time we have a shocker of a performance, we end up winning the next game 1-0 and HR gets off the hook again. I don't think he is the future of our club.. I would look at him rather than the players on yesterdays performance

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                • hh9
                  Silver Seat
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1016

                  #9
                  Originally posted by West London is Rss
                  I personally think it was HR's tactics again yesterday.. I like the look of our squad but if anyone should answer to the way we have played against the top sides its HR.
                  It seems to have been 1 step forward 2 steps back with HR.. every time we have a shocker of a performance, we end up winning the next game 1-0 and HR gets off the hook again. I don't think he is the future of our club.. I would look at him rather than the players on yesterdays performance
                  I think it is mostly about tactics. Manager looks at the players available and picks the team and sets up tactics most likely to control out opponents strenghts and attack their weaknesses.
                  In this match our managers plays with 4 at the back with neither fullback a fullback. Wingbacks would have been good in this match. Choosing to play Kranjcar instead og Henry is also strange.
                  Not a single person on this forum would have picked that team - not even if knowing who was available and who not

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                  • West London is Rss
                    Gold Seat
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 6372

                    #10
                    So weird as well because HR was interviewed before the game saying, we cant stand off them like spurs etc etc, we need to press.

                    All very odd, that the team did the opposite in the game when he said this to a camera pre match

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                    • lymehoop
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7380

                      #11
                      agree about Hoilett and Phillips, united full backs won't have an easier afternoon this season
                      I must away now, I can no longer tarry
                      This morning's tempest I have to cross
                      I must be guided without a stumble
                      Into the arms I love the most

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                      • Shepherds Mush
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 10325

                        #12
                        Originally posted by West London is Rss
                        So weird as well because HR was interviewed before the game saying, we cant stand off them like spurs etc etc, we need to press.All very odd, that the team did the opposite in the game when he said this to a camera pre match
                        I think that's the point though. We knew we had to press but United were just far too fluid and energetic for us to do so. Like you said, it's not going to determine our season.

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                        • W12_Ranger
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 11447

                          #13
                          Originally posted by West London is Rss
                          I just keep getting the same questions in my head when I look at rangers fans opinions on yesterday... what did you expect?

                          You can say effort etc etc. But I honestly think the fans slating the team were looking for a bl00dy result!!
                          Originally posted by West London is Rss
                          So weird as well because HR was interviewed before the game saying, we cant stand off them like spurs etc etc, we need to press.

                          All very odd, that the team did the opposite in the game when he said this to a camera pre match
                          Kinda contradicted yourself here. It's obvious what fans expect and you go on to answer that question.

                          We expect to get in the faces of the big teams , close them down quick and frustrate them not roll over and allow them to take the mick out of us.
                          Last edited by W12_Ranger; 15-09-2014, 05:29 PM.

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                          • Bigdave
                            Gold Seat
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5109

                            #14
                            Don't get how some say 'it was Man U what did you expect'.

                            For the second away game in a row we have been humiliated.

                            We are far far too easy to play against.

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                            • Shepherds Mush
                              Platinum Seat
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 10325

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bigdave
                              Don't get how some say 'it was Man U what did you expect'.

                              For the second away game in a row we have been humiliated.

                              We are far far too easy to play against.

                              I have a feeling there will be many more of these days ahead.

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