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  • kenthoop
    Silver Seat
    • Jul 2012
    • 1428

    #1

    352 is fine, depending on the opposition

    I know a lot of people hate 352 (me being one of them), but it is a system that can work. Against Hull it was fine, a team with no pacey wingers - but deploying it against Spurs was one of the worst decisions I've seen for a long time. The flanks were left exposed, and with Lamela and Chadli having immense pace, this was not ideal!

    I think the system can work, but you can't use it against every opposition - very naive of Harry.
  • winalotto
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 5524

    #2
    Absolutely , was so surprised we went for that formation and even more surprised with the personal we played in it, top 7 clubs we have to go away and bore the pants off the game 4 and a 5 in front of them and take a few 0-0

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    • QPRNY
      Apprentice
      • Sep 2013
      • 116

      #3
      Originally posted by winalotto
      Absolutely , was so surprised we went for that formation and even more surprised with the personal we played in it, top 7 clubs we have to go away and bore the pants off the game 4 and a 5 in front of them and take a few 0-0
      Exactly. When we play top opposition we need to take take a page out of Big Sam's playbook and play "19th century" football.

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      • kenthoop
        Silver Seat
        • Jul 2012
        • 1428

        #4
        Originally posted by QPRNY
        Exactly. When we play top opposition we need to take take a page out of Big Sam's playbook and play "19th century" football.
        It's a horrible thought but it's true! If we wanna stay in this league we're gonna have sacrifice pretty football (which we don't play anyway!) and stick 9 men behind the ball.

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        • fisnik
          Silver Seat
          • Aug 2012
          • 1224

          #5
          The idea was to help the wingbacks with one of the midfield three going wide when required and doubling up on their wingers. Or that's what I gathered from Harry's interview.
          Last edited by fisnik; 25-08-2014, 02:07 PM.

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          • hal9thou
            Silver Seat
            • May 2012
            • 4258

            #6
            You need top draw wing backs and a nippy back 3. We have neither which is why the system is being questioned.


            Originally posted by kenthoop
            It's a horrible thought but it's true! If we wanna stay in this league we're gonna have sacrifice pretty football (which we don't play anyway!) and stick 9 men behind the ball.
            No it's not. Even if you can defend properly for 90m you still need quality out ball to take pressure off. Look at Southampton last year. They played some great football, there is another way. The game is always evolving, look at the USA at the world cup. I think younger managers are more switched on to tactical possibilities, you could tighten QPR up and get them playing football again. It is possible.

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            • Geng
              Silver Seat
              • Jul 2009
              • 1449

              #7
              The idea we need to park the bus and play hoofball against decent sides is nonsense - look at the success Southampton, Swansea, West Brom and others have had in the past few years. We just need half decent coaching and management.

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              • hal9thou
                Silver Seat
                • May 2012
                • 4258

                #8
                Originally posted by Geng
                The idea we need to park the bus and play hoofball against decent sides is nonsense - look at the success Southampton, Swansea, West Brom and others have had in the past few years. We just need half decent coaching and management.
                .... is the right answer.

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                • Kevin Mcleod
                  Referee
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 17322

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hal9thou
                  .... is the right answer.
                  Which harry and glen are not yeah? Harry Out! Get a manager in who bulds a team around tubby.

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                  • Geng
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1449

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                    Which harry and glen are not yeah? Harry Out! Get a manager in who bulds a team around tubby.
                    Well that was HR's ~60th game in charge. Pochettino's 2nd.

                    It's not like I'm being knee-jerk about this. I said we were poorly coached and set up throughout our relegation, last season, the summer, and now.

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                    • Kevin Mcleod
                      Referee
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 17322

                      #11
                      Just coa we are in the same division we are leagues apart. Townsend cant even get in that over a 100 million pound side. Poor finishing (as usual) made that scoreline look so bad, even they we were terrible. Bet the home game is nothing like that whatsoever, even though their team costs about ten times ours. Just cant stand this change the management after two games bull.

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                      • jmelanie
                        Gold Seat
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 7525

                        #12
                        Do we know what the players feel about this system. I get the feeling (and tell me if I'm wrong) that JB is not very keen and since he is the captain, this could make it difficult. Also not sure about his relationship with Glen Hoddle.

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                        • hal9thou
                          Silver Seat
                          • May 2012
                          • 4258

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                          Which harry and glen are not yeah? Harry Out! Get a manager in who bulds a team around tubby.
                          Erm sorry? I hadn't mentioned Adel. I never suggested building a team around him. Jumping to conclusions is no substitute for sanity.

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                          • stanistheman
                            Platinum Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 11151

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kenthoop
                            It's a horrible thought but it's true! If we wanna stay in this league we're gonna have sacrifice pretty football (which we don't play anyway!) and stick 9 men behind the ball.
                            I think Pulis thinks that too and it is hard to argue against really. Hard work and boring football for a few seasons until the new ground is built and then look to push on and play better football.
                            It doesn't have to be long ball football but have a very strong work rate ethos.

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                            • Yousef
                              Gold Seat
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 9553

                              #15
                              Against strong sides we should field two defensive medfielders/ball winners: Barton and Faurlin.
                              QPR fan since1987

                              @yousef_qpr

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