Breaking news re Ferdinand

[IsleworthRanger]

Quite a good debate for a Tuesday

[Rangersw12]

So what is an acceptable number of games, we should expect from this world class defender who's fit and raring to go?

Your banging your head against a brick wall mate people seem to think we're signing the Ferdinand of 5 years ago going by some of the posts so they won't listen to you

Injury prone , on to much money and not worth the risk IMO

The fact people are saying 15 games a season would be good should sound the alarm bells in their little heads !

[Del]

I doubt he will be a better coach than Hill

Why wouldn't he be a better coach than Hill?

He's a better defender, has a better footballing brain, played at a much higher standard, and played for some of the best managers in football and would have everyone's respect so if he speaks they'd listen... Chances are he'll have more to offer as a coach, or get more out of players than Hill.

That said, there's no guarantees whatsoever, and Hill could be better, I just find it a strange thing to think Hill would be better at this time.

[SammyKojoe]

He is better than what we currently have so that is good enough for me. Wages, Contract length or the length of his hampton are of no concern to me.

[Bluehoop]

Funny thing is those having a patronising dig at the pro Ferdinand brigade are basing their argument, in part, on his wage demands and him being paid way more than anyone else. Why is it funny? because clearly they believe everything printed in the daily rags regarding how much money he has been offered. If I was one of those being dug out by the anti brigade in such a belittling fashion, I would be straight back at them casting aspersions at the size of their tiny minds in a kind of titfortat way
So, for the hard of hearing - both sides of the argument have up sides and down and everyone is entitled to their opinion without being mocked or receiving sneaky little jibs. No matter how convinced one side is that they are right, it doesn't entitle them to state that every one else is a complete halfwit so let's keep it that way - capiche

[West London is Rss]

He aint even signed yet haha..

Last season we signed Dunne.. Not one person on here would have thought he would play pretty much every game of a championship season!

[maidstone_hoop]

What planet are you on! He's 35, nearly 36, so regardless whether I feel he's worth a contract or not, it obviously wouldn't be prudent from a business respective to offer him a 2 or 3 year contract! It's a pointless argument.

We all know the general career longevity of footballers, and know he's near the end of his career so we don't need you acting like an arrogant ar5e on the forum to tell us that, thanks. That's why people are saying a 1yr deal FFS. If he does well and the club want to roll it beyond that so be it.

Oh, and how am I making judgements based on the past exactly? If you actually read my posts in the thread I made the point of saying obviously he's not as good as he used to be but if he's even 70% of the player he was, he'd still improve our squad.

Agree with all the points about rio - 1 year deal is good business at 35 years old. No point handing a 35 year old a 2 or 3 year deal when the fact is he is of course more prone to injury. If he plays 20 games plus and has a good season we can again sit down at the end of next year.
Harry said this morning this move isnt motivated by money, he could go elsewhere for much more - I think we are lucky because he knows harry and want to come back to London.
Also as you have said del he's played a decent amount of games over the last few years and last year he didnt play as much due to fact of moyes and not injury.
I think id prefer rio to join and play 20 games. 20 decent games from him and hes worth his salary all day long. He reads the game fantastically well, as good as anyone and his awareness and positioning makes up for the speed he lost. Its the same as strikers, look at kevin phillips lost his pace but replaced it with movemnt and being in the right place.
What a player to have around the training ground, model pro and our cb's will gain invaluable first hand experience from him.

[Rangersw12]

Funny thing is those having a patronising dig at the pro Ferdinand brigade are basing their argument, in part, on his wage demands and him being paid way more than anyone else. Why is it funny? because clearly they believe everything printed in the daily rags regarding how much money he has been offered. If I was one of those being dug out by the anti brigade in such a belittling fashion, I would be straight back at them casting aspersions at the size of their tiny minds in a kind of titfortat way
So, for the hard of hearing - both sides of the argument have up sides and down and everyone is entitled to their opinion without being mocked or receiving sneaky little jibs. No matter how convinced one side is that they are right, it doesn't entitle them to state that every one else is a complete halfwit so let's keep it that way - capiche

Yeah its stupid of people to think that Ferdinand who was one of the highest paid players at United would then became one of the highest paid players at Rangers

[Del]

Agree with all the points about rio - 1 year deal is good business at 35 years old. No point handing a 35 year old a 2 or 3 year deal when the fact is he is of course more prone to injury. If he plays 20 games plus and has a good season we can again sit down at the end of next year.
Harry said this morning this move isnt motivated by money, he could go elsewhere for much more - I think we are lucky because he knows harry and want to come back to London.
Also as you have said del he's played a decent amount of games over the last few years and last year he didnt play as much due to fact of moyes and not injury.
I think id prefer rio to join and play 20 games. 20 decent games from him and hes worth his salary all day long. He reads the game fantastically well, as good as anyone and his awareness and positioning makes up for the speed he lost. Its the same as strikers, look at kevin phillips lost his pace but replaced it with movemnt and being in the right place.
What a player to have around the training ground, model pro and our cb's will gain invaluable first hand experience from him.

Spot on mate.

[Del]

He aint even signed yet haha..

Last season we signed Dunne.. Not one person on here would have thought he would play pretty much every game of a championship season!

Exactly, and he didnt play a single game the previous season due to injury.

[Bluehoop]

Yeah its stupid of people to think that Ferdinand who was one of the highest paid players at United would then became one of the highest paid players at Rangers

I'm afraid I'm with Oscar Wilde on this one

[Rangersw12]

I'm afraid I'm with Oscar Wilde on this one

The truth is rarely pure and never simple....

[Bluehoop]

The truth is rarely pure and never simple....

Very clever, only you weren't being earnest so much as sarcastic

[QPR Richard]

What planet are you on! He's 35, nearly 36, so regardless whether I feel he's worth a contract or not, it obviously wouldn't be prudent from a business respective to offer him a 2 or 3 year contract! It's a pointless argument.

We all know the general career longevity of footballers, and know he's near the end of his career so we don't need you acting like an arrogant ar5e on the forum to tell us that, thanks. That's why people are saying a 1yr deal FFS. If he does well and the club want to roll it beyond that so be it.

Oh, and how am I making judgements based on the past exactly? If you actually read my posts in the thread I made the point of saying obviously he's not as good as he used to be but if he's even 70% of the player he was, he'd still improve our squad.

I think I've hit a raw nerve there. Not all of us think it's good business to sign past it former superstars. Not all of us are bowled over by big names. Some of us would prefer a good CB that can be developed. You say he's near the end of his career and you are right. As Joey Barton has said, QPR cannot be a place where good players come to die. You appear to disagree, which is of course your right. As I've said elsewhere, for every Dunne Hill and Nelsen, there's a Hateley Park and Dyer.

Shout for Rio all you like, we don't all have to jump on the bandwagon. Sorry to disappoint.

[West Acton]

I think I've hit a raw nerve there. Not all of us think it's good business to sign past it former superstars. Not all of us are bowled over by big names. Some of us would prefer a good CB that can be developed. You say he's near the end of his career and you are right. As Joey Barton has said, QPR cannot be a place where good players come to die. You appear to disagree, which is of course your right. As I've said elsewhere, for every Dunne Hill and Nelsen, there's a Hateley Park and Dyer.

Shout for Rio all you like, we don't all have to jump on the bandwagon. Sorry to disappoint.

Would you have been against Ashley Cole had we made a move