Membership entitlement

[Snaxo]

This comment is ABSOLUTELY BANG ON! The allocation is awful – people keep saying that members can buy 4 tickets before they go on general sale BUT WHY WOULD THEY?! I'm a member but if I want to guarantee a seat I have to sit on my todd?

Yes I can get another seat in Phase 2 but it won't be next to me.

Yes I can get another 2 seats in Phase 4 but again they won’t be next to me…

It's a farce…

Exactly. Tony tweeted me to say he agreed with us and Phil Beard would be 'fixing'. I don't see any change. I have tweeted them both this morning asking for an update. I suspect it won't change now.
Policy doesn't make sense. Why not just have 1 phase for members, after ST holders, when they can buy 2 - rather than 3 phases where they can buy 1, 1 and 2.....crazy. Can't see all tickets being sold through having a phase 1 for ST holders and a phase 2 for members (2 ticket allowance both times).

[Del]

This comment is ABSOLUTELY BANG ON! The allocation is awful – people keep saying that members can buy 4 tickets before they go on general sale BUT WHY WOULD THEY?! I'm a member but if I want to guarantee a seat I have to sit on my todd?

Yes I can get another seat in Phase 2 but it won't be next to me.

Yes I can get another 2 seats in Phase 4 but again they won’t be next to me…

It's a farce…

Some people would buy extras they don't need to sell for a profit and the club have given them licence to do so..... as for sitting together, see my post above. Someone was told this and posted yesterday, that you can roll over your first ticket from phase 2 to phase 3 and get two together, but check with the club when calling.

[Del]

Exactly. Tony tweeted me to say he agreed with us and Phil Beard would be 'fixing'. I don't see any change. I have tweeted them both this morning asking for an update. I suspect it won't change now.
Policy doesn't make sense. Why not just have 1 phase for members, after ST holders, when they can buy 2 - rather than 3 phases where they can buy 1, 1 and 2.....crazy. Can't see all tickets being sold through having a phase 1 for ST holders and a phase 2 for members (2 ticket allowance both times).

If you read the detail, the reason is because they can guarantee every ST holder 2 tickets in phase 1, and every member 1 ticket in phase 2... Guaranteed availability. After that it is subject to availability. Also, many families for example would each have a membership, especially if you use the lower loft family stand because you have to be a member for access, therefore they just use each client ref and get tickets together in phase 2 no problem.

My issue is clearly if every ST had their 2 in phase 1, and every member had 1 in phase 2, clearly there's not enough for every member to get a 2nd in phase 3, hence the wording...... then after that they are still allowing ST and members a chance to buy a further 2 each, before general sale, making it a serious doubt that many will be able to get tickets in general sale. That's why im p155ed.

[stanistheman]

Not having a go at fellow R's but why all this moaning about losing out on Wembley? Since Jan membership has been £10 and back then it was obvious we'd finish in the playoff places so £10 is a small price to payto guarantee your ticket

Fair point I guess, but I have not noticed that, as I don't really use the club site much anymore.

[martyhoop]

My issue isn't about paying membership, its that I can only buy 1 ticket so I can't sit with my Dad to watch the game ? Surely 2 per member the day after Season Ticket holders isn't too much to ask ?

Why should members get the same benefits as season ticket holders?

[stanistheman]

If you read the detail, the reason is because they can guarantee every ST holder 2 tickets in phase 1, and every member 1 ticket in phase 2... Guaranteed availability. After that it is subject to availability. Also, many families for example would each have a membership, especially if you use the lower loft family stand because you have to be a member for access, therefore they just use each client ref and get tickets together in phase 2 no problem.

My issue is clearly if every ST had their 2 in phase 1, and every member had 1 in phase 2, clearly there's not enough for every member to get a 2nd in phase 3, hence the wording...... then after that they are still allowing ST and members a chance to buy a further 2 each, before general sale, making it a serious doubt that many will be able to get tickets in general sale. That's why im p155ed.

IMO, it's a ludicrous way to sell tickets.

by the time they go through the phases there wont be any tickets on general sale to those fans who for whatever reasons, have not bought ST or taken out Membership, but still attend games every now and then (as their databse can prove if purchased from the Box Office).

[Burnside]

Ive got one membership and require an addirional two tickets. So I buy mine in P2 and the others in P4 is that correct?

[Norths]

Nows really not the time for a wind up kev, have a bit of respect fella.

[Del]

Ive got one membership and require an addirional two tickets. So I buy mine in P2 and the others in P4 is that correct?

That would work yes.

[Norths]

Ive got one membership and require an addirional two tickets. So I buy mine in P2 and the others in P4 is that correct?

Will be trying to do the same as the parents are keen to go so i will be grabbing mine in P2 and then taking a chance on waiting until P4 to grab theirs as picking the extra up in P3 will be pointless.

[Swishes]

IMO, it's a ludicrous way to sell tickets.

by the time they go through the phases there wont be any tickets on general sale to those fans who for whatever reasons, have not bought ST or taken out Membership, but still attend games every now and then (as their databse can prove if purchased from the Box Office).

I'm sorry but you are completely wrong.

The clubs first aim is to ensure all season ticket holders and members get a ticket.

The second aim, and the reason why the limits aren't big per person to begin with, but grow over the phases, is so everyone gets a fair chance at the best tickets.

Lastly, the club want to reward season ticket holders and members for their loyalty.

The only people moaning here are people who didn't want to invest 10 pounds in a membership when tens of thousands of others did, why should they get any say in the matter?

For the people suggesting it should have been season ticket holders, then members but x per member, how would you feel as a member, who has been to many games this season, paid the full membership price at the start of the season, goes to buy his ticket for wembley and either can't buy a seat at all because they have sold out, or, can't buy the category he wants because other members have bought more tickets for non members?

Likewise, if the club had left out the phase where members can buy additional tickets, how would this be fair to the members?

What the club have done is reward loyalty which is fair!

[Norths]

Might have been easier to just do:

P1 ST holder one ticket
P2 Members one ticket
Then general sale.

Rewards loyalty for both st holders and members. What loyalty is the club rewarding if say the person the st holder buys the extra ticket for has not been to a game all season?

[Lunar Jetman]

Might have been easier to just do:

P1 ST holder one ticket
P2 Members one ticket
Then general sale.

Rewards loyalty for both st holders and members. What loyalty is the club rewarding if say the person the st holder buys the extra ticket for has not been to a game all season?

I don't have a problem with 2 for ST and 1 for Member initially but would like to be able to sit with family who are a mixture of ST and members. We've all been guaranteed tickets, just not together.....

[brightonr]

If you read the detail, the reason is because they can guarantee every ST holder 2 tickets in phase 1, and every member 1 ticket in phase 2... Guaranteed availability. After that it is subject to availability. Also, many families for example would each have a membership, especially if you use the lower loft family stand because you have to be a member for access, therefore they just use each client ref and get tickets together in phase 2 no problem.

My issue is clearly if every ST had their 2 in phase 1, and every member had 1 in phase 2, clearly there's not enough for every member to get a 2nd in phase 3, hence the wording...... then after that they are still allowing ST and members a chance to buy a further 2 each, before general sale, making it a serious doubt that many will be able to get tickets in general sale. That's why im p155ed.

I can see why it would be frustrating, but where should the club draw the line?

As a holder of one ST, why should I be allowed two? Surely, once I have got one, ALL members should have a chance to buy ONE, prior to anybody else. And if all have been sold by that point, one per ST holder and one per member, I'm afraid that it is just one of those things.

When one thinks of the commitment shown by many fans in terms of cost, time off work, travel etc., to support their team throughout the season, I find it a bit odd to suddenly see so many people thinking that they should have some sort of "right" to a Wembley ticket.

I wonder how many people who were miffed that they couldn't get a ticket for Monday night, went to the league match against the same team only a few weeks earlier.

[Del]

I can see why it would be frustrating, but where should the club draw the line?

As a holder of one ST, why should I be allowed two? Surely, once I have got one, ALL members should have a chance to buy ONE, prior to anybody else. And if all have been sold by that point, one per ST holder and one per member, I'm afraid that it is just one of those things.

When one thinks of the commitment shown by many fans in terms of cost, time off work, travel etc., to support their team throughout the season, I find it a bit odd to suddenly see so many people thinking that they should have some sort of "right" to a Wembley ticket.

I wonder how many people who were miffed that they couldn't get a ticket for Monday night, went to the league match against the same team only a few weeks earlier.

I dont think i have a right to a Wembley ticket, but equally dont feel ST holders or members should have the right to buy 4 each before i have a chance to buy any.

People can say we should've bought memberships earlier etc, which obviously if we knew how stupid the club would be then we would've done, but that's not the point. Others say about rewarding loyalty... that doesnt really tell the picture though does it. How can a new fan who paid a £10 reduced membership fee this year be classed as more loyal than thousands who've followed QPR for years all over the place and for whatever reason dont have a memebrship or ST this season??

Before kids me and the wife had ST's and travelled to the likes of Blackpool, Sheffield, Cardiff, Oldham, Bournemouth, Plymouth, Swindon etc etc etc during the hard times and put money in buckets to help keep the club going before we had rich backers.....

It still grates on me that i was too young and left at home while older brothers were taken to the Cup final in 82, and then we couldnt get tickets in 86. I felt the pain in the Millenium Stadium in the 120th minute in 2003 like the rest of us, then had to endure that journey home thinking what might have been. Then a year later the elation of 9k at Hillsborough when we went up, and the banter with Bristol Rovers fans on the journey back after they loved the fact prevented City going up that day.....

The point is there are plenty of loyal fans of this great club who dont have ST or membership for whatever reason, finances, availability, location etc, it doesnt make them less of a fan. The club should've thought about this a lot more than they have. They could've still given guarantees to ST and members, and rewarded their investment and loyalty, but at the same time, give others a better chance of securing a ticket.