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  • Nick
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    Originally posted by hal9thou
    When you've been watching Rs for 50 years you know how to manage your expectations. For ten of those years I worked on the spreads in the early Betfair days so money and mouth were connected when it came to football - don't assume that people whose point of view does not co-incide with yours are ignorant.

    Moyes was competent at best. Everton fans can't believe the transformation up there, because they now have a manger who has is tactically flexible and positive. Martinez performed miracles keeping Wigan up and landing them a trophy on a budget less than TF's expenses.

    Harry is an interesting guy with an interesting bank account, plenty of wisdom but he hasn't been a development manager for years. I'd kick him upstairs with a watching brief and an expense account ;) Steve McClaren has really come through, could do a job here. Still like the man from Fiorentina.....

    Thanks for the history lesson of your kind self, but I think your age and job title is irrelevant. When it comes down to it we are a championship side, no more no less and we need to be a bit more realistic as to who's going to come here.

    IMO we've got one of the best managers around, who's still got a few more years in him and hopefully will spend them with us. IF we can get up this season I honestly think we wont need to look for another manger for another 5+ years.

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  • Shania
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    Do you like what you have seen from OGS so far???
    Last edited by Shania; 04-02-2014, 02:05 PM.

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  • hal9thou
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    Originally posted by Nick
    I think expectations are a little bit to high for some...
    When you've been watching Rs for 50 years you know how to manage your expectations. For ten of those years I worked on the spreads in the early Betfair days so money and mouth were connected when it came to football - don't assume that people whose point of view does not co-incide with yours are ignorant.

    Moyes was competent at best. Everton fans can't believe the transformation up there, because they now have a manger who has is tactically flexible and positive. Martinez performed miracles keeping Wigan up and landing them a trophy on a budget less than TF's expenses.

    Harry is an interesting guy with an interesting bank account, plenty of wisdom but he hasn't been a development manager for years. I'd kick him upstairs with a watching brief and an expense account ;) Steve McClaren has really come through, could do a job here. Still like the man from Fiorentina.....

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  • Shania
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    I am talking future managers!! Harry With his excellent motivational skills is OK for now. We need stabilty.

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  • Mem
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    What do you mean exactly? There is no way anyone could have sorted out the mess that Hughes created

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  • Shania
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    Røsler, Dyche or Ole G. Solskjær for me!!

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by Mem
    I really want Harry to stay - he sometimes gets a bad press and I think we had a 'rotten apple ' team last season and Harry had too much on his hands to sort it

    The team spirit is second to none now and he has actually not spent much - Austin and Phillips who are both quality and value for money - all the others are free transfers or loans

    If we don't go up I think he will either walk and concentrate on his media work and walking the dog or a southern premiership club will snap him up

    In terms of a replacement I really like malkie McKay as he is young, got Cardiff promoted, dealt with the worst chairman in the world and is modern thinking in his approach. I doubt whether he will be available in the summer though

    I wouldn't go for warnock or holloway - been there and got the tshirt - rarely works when a manager comes back

    Excatly.

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  • Nick
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    Originally posted by Robsondinho
    Didn't dig him out, just said you went way over the top saying he is one of the best managers around which he clearly isn't. On a side note also, Man U will be wrong IMO to get rid of Moyes. I mean look at Fergie when he first took charge of United. Agree with weare also that the Man U playing squad (apart from their forwards) isn't good enough to compete with the current top 4.

    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on the Harry front

    But we do agree with the Moyes issue, he definitely needs more time, like you said just look at when Ferguson first joined utd

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  • Shania
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    [QUOTE=Robsondinho;1213053]Didn't dig him out, just said you went way over the top saying he is one of the best managers around which he clearly isn't. On a side note also, Man U will be wrong IMO to get rid of Moyes. I mean look at Fergie when he first took charge of United. Agree with weare also that the Man U playing squad (apart from their forwards) isn't good enough to compete with the current top 4.[/QUOTE]


    I think this is pretty much common knowledge!

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  • Mem
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    I really want Harry to stay - he sometimes gets a bad press and I think we had a 'rotten apple ' team last season and Harry had too much on his hands to sort it

    The team spirit is second to none now and he has actually not spent much - Austin and Phillips who are both quality and value for money - all the others are free transfers or loans

    If we don't go up I think he will either walk and concentrate on his media work and walking the dog or a southern premiership club will snap him up

    In terms of a replacement I really like malkie McKay as he is young, got Cardiff promoted, dealt with the worst chairman in the world and is modern thinking in his approach. I doubt whether he will be available in the summer though

    I wouldn't go for warnock or holloway - been there and got the tshirt - rarely works when a manager comes back

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  • WeAreQPR12
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    Originally posted by Nick
    You no what mate I think you right.

    I think expectations are a little bit to high for some...
    Fair play for agreeing and giving no back chat!

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
    Nick I am not your GP but I think you need a holiday.
    We have a small group of newbies on this board and unfortunately I could write down all their football knowledge on a postage stamp!

    Ouchzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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  • Nick
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    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
    Nick I am not your GP but I think you need a holiday.
    We have a small group of newbies on this board and unfortunately I could write down all their football knowledge on a postage stamp!
    You no what mate I think you right.

    I think expectations are a little bit to high for some...

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  • Robsondinho
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    Originally posted by Nick
    Oh your in the "if you haven't proven yourself in 5 minutes get out" gang... that makes a bit more sense why your digging Redknapp out... in fairness we should have signed X amount of players by now including Messi, Suarez etc and we should be top of table unbeaten. Lol
    Didn't dig him out, just said you went way over the top saying he is one of the best managers around which he clearly isn't. On a side note also, Man U will be wrong IMO to get rid of Moyes. I mean look at Fergie when he first took charge of United. Agree with weare also that the Man U playing squad (apart from their forwards) isn't good enough to compete with the current top 4.

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
    I completely agree about your point with regards to being a 'top' manager.
    He is hyped up by the press because he is very easy to talk to and I think he is great in front of the camera.

    Fans love the fact he is a real old school football man. This means that he is very enthusiastic and working class. However this does help disguise his lack of tactical knowledge imo.

    He won't ever get a top job because there are much better overall managers that have it all. Harry is very much a 1 trick pony and most big clubs see through his quick wit.

    With regards to Moyes I don't really agree. I appreciate Ferguson won the league last year which was an incredible achievement but you're asking Moyes to make players like Wellbeck and Cleverly to be world beaters and far too many in his squad aren't good enough. Sir Alex knew when to retire and I think expectations were far too high. The playing staff needs a complete rebuild and for that reason Moyes deserves time and respect for now.
    On the whole, a very good post!! No doubt, you know your onions when it comes to fotball.

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