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  • QPRDave
    The number 10
    • Mar 2009
    • 32080

    #121
    Originally posted by madara
    FYI If you boo someone who represent the club then indirectly you are booing the club. .
    he'll have to go away and think about that one......

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    • WeAreQPR12
      C Club
      • Mar 2009
      • 23558

      #122
      Originally posted by madara
      FYI If you boo someone who represent the club then indirectly you are booing the club. .
      You really are a complete tosse r with that kind of opinion.

      DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE THAT BOO DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CLUB????

      So you think BOSINGWA AND M'BIA deserved a round of applause.

      There is NOTHING wrong with BOOING when a player isn't committed.

      I accept a player like Mackie who I didn't rate much because he puts in a shift and I would never boo him, but when you have a player earning 80k just showing attitude and lack of any effort the fans that pay to watch have a right to express their opinion.

      While you sit in Morrocco watching a stream complaining that it isn't a smooth stream and the picture quality could be better, while you soak up more sun, think about the english fan earning a hard wage on a cold nov day away to barnsley and think to yourself you have no right to blame that fan for expression an opinion. You really come out with some sh it. That is all and you also have no reason to reply as I am telling you cold hard facts!
      I played sunday league football today.

      Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

      I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

      We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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      • Marshy
        • Sep 2012
        • 1958

        #123
        Originally posted by madara
        FYI If you boo someone who represent the club then indirectly you are booing the club. .
        No, if the player isn't being a good representative of the club, the booing him doesn't imply I am booing the club, directly or indirectly.

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        • QPRDave
          The number 10
          • Mar 2009
          • 32080

          #124
          Originally posted by Marshy4Ever
          No, if the player isn't being a good representative of the club, the booing him doesn't imply I am booing the club, directly or indirectly.
          Have you played football Marshy?....or do you?...Curious

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          • Stanley
            Guest
            • Mar 2009
            • 23693

            #125
            Originally posted by Marshy4Ever
            I don't think the best players in the world would be constantly booed - players get booed when they're not performing.

            At the end of the day, football isn't just a game of skill and physical strength, it also has requires mental strength. If some booing when you're not performing is going to upset you so much that you can't play well again, then maybe this isn't the right career for you.
            What utter nonsense.

            Even the best players can have off-days or lose form. If their fans then get on their back it will inevitably affect their performance (and in turn the team's).

            That's basic human psychology, and really not rocket science.

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            • Marshy
              • Sep 2012
              • 1958

              #126
              Originally posted by Stanley76
              What utter nonsense.

              Even the best players can have off-days or lose form. If their fans then get on their back it will inevitably affect their performance (and in turn the team's).

              That's basic human psychology, and really not rocket science.
              But I have never said you should boo a player just because he is having an off-day.

              I am talking about players who constantly have off-days due to what seems to be lack of effort.

              Hey, I once got told off for calling someone clueless (actually, it was rickyranger) so you better be careful with writing "utter nonsense" ... oh I forgot, you're the mod

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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #127
                Originally posted by Marshy4Ever
                I am talking about players who constantly have off-days due to what seems to be lack of effort.
                To quote yourself:

                Originally posted by Marshy4Ever
                That's your assumption. That is all it is - your assumption.
                ...and there is the flaw in your argument: "What seems to be a lack of effort". How many times does it need repeating? The guy is playing through the pain barrier whilst carrying an injury - so has it not occurred to you that "what seems to be a lack of effort" is actually him just managing his best to play within his limited handicap?

                Do you think he picks himself? No, the manager does. So you can't blame him for that.

                Do you think he deliberately delayed his operation? No, he far more likely went on the advice of the club's doctors, bearing in mind his contract expires next summer. So nor can you blame him for that.

                So it would help your argument abilities not to base them on groundless assumptions.

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                • vblockranger
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 15218

                  #128
                  Originally posted by madara
                  ROFL. Nonsense. You knew we would get relegated before we got relegated? You boooed and we still got relegated? What? Doesn't you booing contribute in a way to us getting relegated?

                  As for booing park, the first time was in january when he was coming back from an injury. The previous months he was out injured. The months before he was injured he was voted here to be motm or top 3 in a few games.
                  Leave it out with the Park tinted glasses. Park was booed because he was sh1t for us on a regular basis and the fans made their feelings clear...hence no Park this season and most fans happier because of it.

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                  • vblockranger
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 15218

                    #129
                    Well tbf Zamora is a bit of a donkey even when not injured and playing through the pain barrier. Move him on to Brighton, the sea air should do wonders for his bad hip plus he can carry kids round on the beach for some extra dosh. Win Win.

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                    • madara
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 718

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Rangers77
                      Roll round on the floor as much as you like, mate. Real fans know the team were to blame for what happened to us, some players more than others, not us fans. That includes your idol who was sh1 t every single time he played for us with the nano second exception of his assist at Southampton. Having watched the Rs be relegated four times I know something about this. And I know that booing doesn't relegate a team but that underperforming players with bad attitudes do (which is why they get fu@king booed......).
                      A team is not just the players playing.

                      Booing doesn't help anyone but yourself.

                      You want the players to put the team first then lead by example.

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                      • madara
                        Bronze Seat
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 718

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Rangers77
                        Don't worry. They couldn't hear you cheer from Korea.
                        I'm cheering 1 hour away.

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                        • madara
                          Bronze Seat
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 718

                          #132
                          Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
                          You really are a complete tosse r with that kind of opinion.

                          DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE THAT BOO DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CLUB????

                          So you think BOSINGWA AND M'BIA deserved a round of applause.

                          There is NOTHING wrong with BOOING when a player isn't committed.

                          I accept a player like Mackie who I didn't rate much because he puts in a shift and I would never boo him, but when you have a player earning 80k just showing attitude and lack of any effort the fans that pay to watch have a right to express their opinion.

                          While you sit in Morrocco watching a stream complaining that it isn't a smooth stream and the picture quality could be better, while you soak up more sun, think about the english fan earning a hard wage on a cold nov day away to barnsley and think to yourself you have no right to blame that fan for expression an opinion. You really come out with some sh it. That is all and you also have no reason to reply as I am telling you cold hard facts!
                          1. I didn't say that. But apparently the team/club comes second to their need to voice their displeasure.
                          2. I didn't say that either. As a team we weren't good enough.
                          3. No one is earning 80k. Max is 65k last season. Anyway I'm not arguing that you cannot express your opinion whenever you want.
                          4. Maybe I sound a bit harsh. You may do whatever you want with your hard earned money. If you chose to go to support QPR i just find it a bit counterproductive to boo QPR. That is all.

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                          • Marshy
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1958

                            #133
                            Originally posted by Stanley76
                            Exactly, and there is the flaw in your argument: "What seems to be a lack of effort". How many times does it need repeating? The guy is playing through the pain barrier whilst carrying an injury - so has it not occurred to you that "what seems to be a lack of effort" is actually him just managing his best to play within his limited handicap?

                            Do you think he picks himself? No, the manager does. So you can't blame him for that.

                            Do you think he deliberately delayed his operation? No, he far more likely went on the advice of the club's doctors, bearing in mind his contract expires next summer. So nor can you blame him for that.

                            So it would help your argument abilities not to base them on groundless assumptions.

                            maybe I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying Bobby should be booed. I haven't booed him. and although I am not his biggest fan, he hasnt shown me anything that he deserves to be booed.

                            I was making a general point to those who were saying we shouldnt boo players.

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                            • Rangers77
                              Platinum Seat
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 11808

                              #134
                              Originally posted by madara
                              I'm cheering 1 hour away.
                              ROFL... To coin a phrase.

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                              • madara
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 718

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Rangers77
                                ROFL... To coin a phrase.
                                Better than booing

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