So let me get this straight ....

[QPRSCLART]

Its a lot easier to motivate players who are making a step UP to come and play for us rather than try to motivate players who feel they have taken a step DOWN and this is something that rangers have got wrong for years, way before the likes of Fernandes vision and Briatore's project.

very very true. & sadly we don't seem to be changing this policy

[WeAreQPR12]

I feel if we keep this team that started today, i sense a Wolves scenario coming on......

I've been saying all along without Adel we are completely devoid of any creativity.

Adel has come under plenty of stick by many fans on here but if you think we are a better side without him then you really are kidding yourself.

No disrespect to Exeter city and Peterborough utd but come on, adel would show up there defenders and I bet he would of nuts into double figures. Yes some like a work horse but you need someone with Vision, until we actually replace him Adel is worth his weight in gold and some might say that's allot of gold but he looked pretty trim the last I saw of him.

Also not 1 person questions Harry on this board but I think we needed to start completely again and that included management and staff. A manager that dropped m'bia and played to players strengths would be a start.

Remy and Adel are clearly our best players and we should be doing everything we can to keep adel, harry is losing the plot not with just adel but it seems the whole squad.

[OneEyedWilly]

Still think its a bit early to be filling ones pants with excrement just yet.

[QPRSCLART]

^^big cosign. adel has been at the centre of everything good we've done for years.

arry is a cowboy

[QPRDave]

Its a lot easier to motivate players who are making a step UP to come and play for us rather than try to motivate players who feel they have taken a step DOWN and this is something that rangers have got wrong for years, way before the likes of Fernandes vision and Briatore's project.

I tell you what Vblock, that is spot on mate. Good post

[BuffooneRy]

Pre-season games are all about fitness. Don't read too much into the result. We all know Zamora will never score a goal for QPR. Has he ever by the way?

All about fitness what a load of tripe.... Surely there's got to be more to it than that or else send them out for a cross country run and be done with it.... No goals against supposedly inferior opposition has got to be a worry surely... Blimey if you were a striker for the R's you'd have to fancy your chances against the likes of the Grecians and Posh respectively...:(

[QPRDave]

All about fitness what a load of tripe.... Surely there's got to be more to it than that or else send them out for a cross country run and be done with it.... No goals against supposedly inferior opposition has got to be a worry surely... Blimey if you were a striker for the R's you'd have to fancy your chances against the likes of the Grecians and Posh respectively...:(

and the good news AJ has pledged to stay with us........................................triffic..

[stanistheman]

Neither of our best 2 players have play in either game either.

Taarabt is on his way out and Remy could be going too. So QPR will have to replace them with similar quality players otherwise they will be a bottom half side at best.

[jmelanie]

I still don't think Remy is going anywhere. The only club which has showed any interest is Newcastle and I am not sure about this as one moment they are not interested and the next minute they are. Also it is unusual to sign a player who told them in January that he wasn't interested.

[swede]

Get a grip Swede ! there's nearly 7 weeks of the window left no one knows what our starting line up will be Shef wed I would have expected better from you

Glad that you expect good things from me...but truth is we can be in for another really depressing season. As you say, we don`t know what our starting line up will be against Sheff Wed but the signs ARE no good. We have too many players who has passed zenit regarding motivation (and ability?) with high wages which make them hard to trade. Last years culture/behavior hasn`t totally changed and it will take a long time to erase it. Our manager hasn´t really made us happy with his tactical and player-handling decisions. Has this changed? Sadly..I don`t think so. If we survive this year and if we can ship Granero, Bosingwa, Mbia, Zamora, SWP, Ferdinand, Park, Cesar, Green (yeah he ain`t worth the money), Hoilett (don`t think he want´s to be here) and get some new faces in who want´s to play for our club I will be happy. I also wan`t a new manager. Next season, if not sooner, we`ll probably have one.

[QPR Richard]

Well we lack quality badly... and most of the players don't want to be here so it is a tough one.

I just wonder if we could possibly face league 1?

We do not lack quality badly, we have it in abundance. We have poor quality!

[zeberdee]

... we're contenders for the championship title but - we couldn't beat a second division team and we lost against a first division team and still haven't scored any goals! .... hmmmmmm methinks something is afoot.

I dont think the current squad are title contenders. Got to score about 70 goals just to get a play off position in the championship. The players that went to Devon including Adel and Remy scored about 20 goals last season. That a big gap.

[QPRDave]

I dont think the current squad are title contenders. Got to score about 70 goals just to get a play off position in the championship. The players that went to Devon including Adel and Remy scored about 20 goals last season. That a big gap.

Agree we need imo 2 new strikers and maybe some goals from midfield ala Townsend

[QPR71]

I've been saying all along without Adel we are completely devoid of any creativity.

Adel has come under plenty of stick by many fans on here but if you think we are a better side without him then you really are kidding yourself.

No disrespect to Exeter city and Peterborough utd but come on, adel would show up there defenders and I bet he would of nuts into double figures. Yes some like a work horse but you need someone with Vision, until we actually replace him Adel is worth his weight in gold and some might say that's allot of gold but he looked pretty trim the last I saw of him.

Also not 1 person questions Harry on this board but I think we needed to start completely again and that included management and staff. A manager that dropped m'bia and played to players strengths would be a start.

Remy and Adel are clearly our best players and we should be doing everything we can to keep adel, harry is losing the plot not with just adel but it seems the whole squad.

I honestly cant remember but did adel play against MK dons

[zeberdee]

I honestly cant remember but did adel play against MK dons

here you go: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21095857