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  • MattyRangers
    Slimmer of The Year
    • Jun 2011
    • 24914

    #46
    Originally posted by QPRDave
    Can posters not see we need experience and younger players to succeed, this obsession on this board of wanting the whole team full of young players will not work.
    Neil Warnock's best 3 signings imo were Kenny, Hill and Derry, the latter two bringing the ingredient we were missing experience and grit.
    All this talk of over the hill players signed last summer is c**p. Nelsen was one of our best players, some of our worst performers were players in their mid 20s
    You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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    • Rangers77
      Platinum Seat
      • Aug 2012
      • 11808

      #47
      If the sh1tbags aren't pushed out of our club, Harry will walk....

      Speaking about his future, the experienced manager explained with a mixture of anger and regret: "If I can't change it around during the summer and get some good lads in, I wouldn't want to come back. There is a little group I need to get out and new blood in. "I want to put a team together where I can look forward to coming into work. I don't want people coming in late and me fining players every day. One player got fined more this month than he did in wages - and believe me he earns plenty of money...."

      "There is a little group I need to get out and new blood in," says Harry as Rangers' relegation season ends in defeat at Anfield


      Getting rid of the dross- by any means, including paying up their contracts- is essential. We know who they are. So does Harry. It includes Samba.

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      • Stanley
        Guest
        • Mar 2009
        • 23693

        #48
        Originally posted by zeberdee
        But that aint gonna happen. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. None of these players are going to take a pay cut to leave. The club will not buy them off either.

        So same manager same players same results next year is what I expect :(
        I wouldn't completely rule that out. TF hinted at it as a last resort in one of his recent interviews.

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        • MYU
          Administrator
          • Mar 2009
          • 43466

          #49
          Why pay them off... better off letting them rot and don't have to pay out in one go.

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          • Stanley
            Guest
            • Mar 2009
            • 23693

            #50
            Originally posted by MYU
            Why pay them off... better off letting them rot and don't have to pay out in one go.
            ...and be wasting a valuable squad place, that's the trouble. Not to mention being a negative influence within the camp when we're trying to build a new team with the right characters and quality.

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            • zeberdee
              Silver Seat
              • Nov 2012
              • 1599

              #51
              Originally posted by QPRDave
              I think if they don't go, HR will, he said today in his after match interview, he doesn't want to go into next season with these same players

              But the idea that poor players will leave rests on another club matching the deal that TF has given them (not gonna happen) or the flops taking a play cut to leave London (not gonna happen) or the club incentivising the players to leave (can't see that because Harry don't have the clout to force it and imo the club don't have the desire to do that).

              And whatever Harry says I don't think he will leave because he loves football and has just about run out of jobs in the south east.

              So it is a bit of a stalemate really and stalemate is the enemy of change.

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              • Rangers77
                Platinum Seat
                • Aug 2012
                • 11808

                #52
                Originally posted by MYU
                Why pay them off... better off letting them rot and don't have to pay out in one go.
                This is sensible. But a clean slate is better. Get rid. Pay the dross off and name and shame them. Keep Green, Harriman, Onouha, Hill, Derry... Maybe AJ. Er. That's it (assuming Remy and Townsend are off). And get a blend of experienced and young players in. Parker would be great. As would getting Joey back.

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                • Olly
                  Gold Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6000

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Stanley76
                  Watching him here it honestly doesn't look like it: http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vide...ges-are-needed

                  I hate to be negative BUT he comes across as utterly down-trodden, tired and dejected if the truth be said. All we can hope for is he gets some kind of enthusiasm injection from somewhere starting right now, because if he can't be motivated there's really no hope for anyone.
                  Any manager would be fed up with our lot. How many silly goals have we given away in our last few games? It's probably been a bit of a culture shock to Harry to be landed with a team of so many low standard players and he'll be glad to get rid of those concerned.

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                  • Yousef
                    Gold Seat
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 9553

                    #54
                    There are a lot of things happening behind the scene. If you all remember one of the reasons Mark Hughes lost his job is that he had lost dressing room control. When Harry came, he punished Bosingwa for his refusal to sit on the bench against Fulham. However, Bosingwa played again after Harry said he started to behave and learn from his mistake, but yet again Bosnigwa at it. It just shows that there are people in the dressing room difficult to control when they are paid far much much more than they even dream of so two weeks wage ban did not work out for him. I am not defending or criticising Harry as he did not only inherit players, but also an unhealthy environment that needs to be changed and by that time changes are made, we can then judge him.
                    QPR fan since1987

                    @yousef_qpr

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                    • Park Street Ranger
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 475

                      #55
                      We may need to pay some of them off. Even if they are not in the squad, some of these higher earning wasters will have a major negative impact on our rating when the financial fair play rules come into force. If they can't be sold, the sooner we can cut our losses, the better.

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                      • BUSHRANGER1982
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5666

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Park Street Ranger
                        We may need to pay some of them off. Even if they are not in the squad, some of these higher earning wasters will have a major negative impact on our rating when the financial fair play rules come into force. If they can't be sold, the sooner we can cut our losses, the better.
                        Agree with that, mate.
                        One way, or another, we need to rid the club of the poisonous element that is obviously having a detrimental effect.

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                        • rangersbitch
                          Bronze Seat
                          • May 2011
                          • 544

                          #57
                          Originally posted by nasser95
                          I find it hilarious that the last 8 or so years of his success could be undermined by some of our fans. The whole country wasn't stupid when they wanted him for england manager, he was favourite because he was a success. Give him time and he will improve the club
                          The "whole" country wanted him as England manager? So there was a massive public survey which got a 100% vote for Redknapp? I don't remember that. My recollection is of plenty of people with decidedly mixed feelings about the prospect.
                          Last edited by rangersbitch; 20-05-2013, 11:10 AM.
                          WRITING ABOUT QPR AND OTHER NONSENSE:

                          http://thisismyengland.blogspot.com/

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                          • zeberdee
                            Silver Seat
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1599

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Stanley76
                            I wouldn't completely rule that out. TF hinted at it as a last resort in one of his recent interviews.
                            Don't see that myself. Maybe the odd one but changing one player is pi$$ing in the wind theres more like 10 of them that people are posting about. That is not something specific to QPR though, basically no organisation wants to say we messed up so bad last year we got to spend to buy off our mistakes - too much egg on face. Can't see Harry pushing it through either because the gap is too big. I hope for better but at present the favourite outcome for next season is about the same people and about the same results as this one.

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                            • QPRDave
                              The number 10
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 32063

                              #59
                              We wouldn't pay them their whole contract anyway, we would negotiate with them and hopefully come to an agreement............I hope we can just shift them without resorting to this

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