Comical Clint

[1cliveallen]

Yet again Clint Hill demonstrates absolutely awful decision making in the heart of our defence and costs us a goal.

He was marking Walcott, yet when Corzola had the ball 10+ yards away he thought it best to charge towards the player with the ball, insted of staying on his man (in our box lets not forget), even though we had about 4 players nearer Corzola. The rest is history and it was truly pathetic. What annoys me most though is that after every incident like this, where he's at fault, he then turns and starts slating others as if it's theirs.

He did exactly the same against Sunderland. He was on Fletcher in the middle, the ball was wide with Johnson with Bosingwa placed to block any shot on target from the tight angle, yet Hill charged him also, he hit a miss-hit shot which went straight to the now vacated Fletcher and it hit him and went in... we go behind. Luckilly that day we recovered, but often we haven't.

I like the blokes desire, but his defending is pitiful, as well as the above examples there was the Suarez embarrassment, deflectons against Everton and Fulham as he doesn't adjust his feet quick enough, joke defending of Crouch against Stoke when he was the only danger to watch, non effective defending at LB against West Brom and West Ham meaning 2 goals from crosses his side in the first 20 mine of each game. These are just some off the top of my head, but there always seems to be stupid things he does, only highlighting he's never prem class. Age only compounds that further.

For HR to make him captain, meaning he'll not only always play, but also be the one calling the shots at the back was the worst decision he made imo.

nedum was 3 yards too deep had he been level with hill walcott was 2 yards offside...youre entitled to slate hill but please suggest an alternative to hill..hill isnt the only problem..remy and townsend aside since january everyone has been pony...

[Rangers77]

I'd like to see Onouha do a job for us at CB..... He's started there two or three times; filled in as a sub maybe three other times? Some one else posted that he needs a run in the team to be at his best. Maybe so..... He wasn't terrible yesterday, but neither was he excellent. Still we didn't miss the overweight, overpaid Samba did we??

[nasser95]

nedum was 3 yards too deep had he been level with hill walcott was 2 yards offside...youre entitled to slate hill but please suggest an alternative to hill..hill isnt the only problem..remy and townsend aside since january everyone has been pony...

Onuoha wasnt at fault, when you play against walcott as a striker, you have to play deep, if 3 of the 4 are back, clearly the 1 made the mistake. Still think that it was instict to close down the ball player but traore was too far wide to cover

[1cliveallen]

Clint Hill is not a centre back he is a full back playing out of position in a desperate team that lacks options. Next season he should remain in the squad because he is absolutely made of the right stuff but dont write him on the 1st 11 team sheet for next season,

wrong mate hes a left footed centre half who has played left back to help out....i did some work for him whilst warnock was in charge and he said he was being played out of position but you dont complain when you love everthing about the club....said our fans are unbelievable

[1cliveallen]

Onuoha wasnt at fault, when you play against walcott as a striker, you have to play deep, if 3 of the 4 are back, clearly the 1 made the mistake. Still think that it was instict to close down the ball player but traore was too far wide to cover

you play deep as a back line and 3 of the 4 were up leaving ned playing walcott on..

[Rangers77]

wrong mate hes a left footed centre half who has played left back to help out....i did some work for him whilst warnock was in charge and he said he was being played out of position but you dont complain when you love everthing about the club....said our fans are unbelievable

Exactly. And has said he can't play LB in the PL because of his age and pace, not CB. Given the sh1t players we have had to put up with- Boswinga, Park, Granero, Traore, Anton etc- I think it's criminal to have a go at Clint.

[Gerryhatrick]

Ironic to think that when Gorksy and Connors played at CB, Hill wasn't considered good enough so was forced to play at FB. Now Connors has won 3 championships on the bonk with different clubs.

[QPRDave]

At what point was i suggesting it was an evaluation of his performance yesterday???

I saw what mattered and he cost us another goal, as he's done on many occasions. As for not seeing him play, yesterday was the first game i've not bothered to watch in full because have little interest after relegation and knew we'd lose.

The reference was related to countless big mistakes over many games and regardless many will defend him to the hilt. Pretty much proven by some going on about Traore's header that lost posession... yes that was a joke too, but they didn't score as a result of that did they. Hill's left his man (their main goal threat) in our box on his own, charging a player that didn't need to be charged as there was plenty around him, so not sure where this theroy comes from that nobody else was attaking the ball.... they didn't dive in stupidly you mean.

As for who was the bigger threat, well Arsenal are known for trying to walk the ball in the net and rarely shoot from outside the box, so you leave walcott free in space about 12 yards from goal Corzola will pass 99 time out of 100.

As have countless players in an Rs shirt this season...Clint for me has generally been one of our more decent performers, think you're wrong to single him out

[West Acton]

nedum was 3 yards too deep had he been level with hill walcott was 2 yards offside...youre entitled to slate hill but please suggest an alternative to hill..hill isnt the only problem..remy and townsend aside since january everyone has been pony...

Not strictly true mate as even if he was level with Hill I swear that Ben Haim was the deepest of the back four so he would still have been well on

[QPR71]

He's already said publically he hasn't got the legs for the premier league. IMO last season he was a rock, and won supporters and players player of the year, deservedly so. This season he hasn't been as good.
For the championship though, he would be the first name on the team sheet for me. As captain.

I think he meant as a full back, where more pace is required....I think if you asked clint, he would say he is a prem class centre back.
I like clint but he cant hack the prem, not even sure about him in the losers league either

[Del]

Full backs job is to cover CBs if they go for a ball. Traore's positioning was useless, he should have taken Walcott.

A fullback can't cover a CB in a split second if he unexpectedly decides to charge forward leaving his man free. From the moment he left Walcott to Corzola playing the ball was next to no time, so how was Traore supposed to cover him that quick??

FB's cover CB's if a team is breaking and a CB gets pulled into the flank, or if one attacks etc. They can't second guess random unexpected decisions.


As for someone blaming Onouha saying he played everyone on, when the rest advanced... wtf are you talking about?? There was no planned advance, Hill was the only one who did by charging the man. Laughable.

[Johnnykc]

As have countless players in an Rs shirt this season...Clint for me has generally been one of our more decent performers, think you're wrong to single him out

Agree Dave. Oh for a few more players with Clints attitude....

[Del]

As have countless players in an Rs shirt this season...Clint for me has generally been one of our more decent performers, think you're wrong to single him out

That's fair comment Dave, and i have slated others also so certainly not singling Hill out. The point is that too often when we concede a goal, imo, Hill has some accountability, some more than others. Yes he may play great for 89 mins and save many chances, but it's the key ones that cost games.... If Cesar or Green made 5 great saves then messed up to concede a goal to cost us a match, they'd get slaughtered. Why is a CB any different....

Finally for those saying he was right to charge Corzola, let me ask this. If he didnt and Corzola scored who would've blamed Hill in that situation.... No one. Which proves it wasn't his job. His job was to contain Walcott, and the frustrating thing for me is he had Walcott exactly where he wanted him, until he choose to leave him. IT was a mistake from HIll no matter how people dress it up, equally as much a mistake as from Traore for the header to put us under pressure in the first place.

Anyway, didnt mean to offend anyone...... I love Clint for all the good stuff about his game, effort, passion, determination etc so don't want people to think i have some vendetta.

[QPRDave]

That's fair comment Dave, and i have slated others also so certainly not singling Hill out. The point is that too often when we concede a goal, imo, Hill has some accountability, some more than others. Yes he may play great for 89 mins and save many chances, but it's the key ones that cost games.... If Cesar or Green made 5 great saves then messed up to concede a goal to cost us a match, they'd get slaughtered. Why is a CB any different....

Finally for those saying he was right to charge Corzola, let me ask this. If he didnt and Corzola scored who would've blamed Hill in that situation.... No one. Which proves it wasn't his job. His job was to contain Walcott, and the frustrating thing for me is he had Walcott exactly where he wanted him, until he choose to leave him. IT was a mistake from HIll no matter how people dress it up, equally as much a mistake as from Traore for the header to put us under pressure in the first place.

Anyway, didnt mean to offend anyone...... I love Clint for all the good stuff about his game, effort, passion, determination etc so don't want people to think i have some vendetta.

And that is a fair point from you too Del, and this place is all opinions and you do back yours up with arguments, and not just throw them around, so fair enough, you're entitled to say where you think we went wrong.
Makes it interesting

[vespa]

I`m really ,really shocked that anyone would start an anti Clint Hill thread , with all the leeches that are sucking our club dry , not giving their all , thinking they are bigger than QPR , people are slagging off Clint Hill , for one mistake against a tbh higher league player from a higher league club.
Clint was our best player against arsenal , and i would be honoured if he was our captain next season