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  • 72bus
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2011
    • 9518

    #16
    someone should of stepped in and said to hughes hold on cissie , johnson ,zamora these players have no sell on value , it doesnt take a genius to work out that flops such as hoilett may do well at another club so we will get some wedge back for him , harry joined a sinking ship without an oar , he tried to plug the hole with samba but that hole was to big

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    • SpankwiR
      Voted Most Handsome Fan 2010, 2011 and 2012
      • Apr 2009
      • 3254

      #17
      Originally posted by 72bus
      someone should of stepped in and said to hughes hold on cissie , johnson ,zamora these players have no sell on value , it doesnt take a genius to work out that flops such as hoilett may do well at another club so we will get some wedge back for him , harry joined a sinking ship without an oar , he tried to plug the hole with samba but that hole was to big
      According to Matty theres now hole too big for Samba to plug

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      • Ric-Roc

        #18
        Originally posted by 72bus
        someone should of stepped in and said to hughes hold on cissie , johnson ,zamora these players have no sell on value , it doesnt take a genius to work out that flops such as hoilett may do well at another club so we will get some wedge back for him , harry joined a sinking ship without an oar , he tried to plug the hole with samba but that hole was to big
        That's what happens when you have no football man overseeing transfers.

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        • acricketer
          Platinum Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 12068

          #19
          We've also learned that you often don't get what you pay for. It's like opening a bottle of Chateau Neuf du Pape and getting vineger.

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          • James1979
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 4857

            #20
            Originally posted by Ric-Roc
            That's what happens when you have no football man overseeing transfers.
            In my view blame lies solely with hughes and rigg (everyone raved about him....what did he actually do???). Fernandes and beard should sanction transfers but should not reject for footballing reasons. Back the manager, that's what people want. Unfortunately we backed the wrong ****** horse!

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            • WeAreQPR12
              C Club
              • Mar 2009
              • 23553

              #21
              Originally posted by James1979
              In my view blame lies solely with hughes and rigg (everyone raved about him....what did he actually do???). Fernandes and beard should sanction transfers but should not reject for footballing reasons. Back the manager, that's what people want. Unfortunately we backed the wrong ****** horse!
              Tbh I think you're stating the obvious. We all clearly know that Hughes spent poorly and bought a very average side with big money. He didn't sign enough strikers and packed the midfield.

              However I am not going to ignore the last 6 months where a new manager came in and did have a transfer market to deliver. Yes it wasn't ever going to be an easy job but looking at the league table shows no improvement. He loves stating the players but does he think his 3m a year contract has been just? The bloke hasn't done enough for me and I only see a few posters agreeing. I think many have jumped on the sun campaign to make out he is a world class manager, when in truth he is very average and has a pretty average record. Thankfully for england he did not become manager
              I played sunday league football today.

              Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

              I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

              We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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              • taarabt7
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2011
                • 1592

                #22
                I think the board, both Hughes and Redknapp and the players are all to blame. The board should have got rid of Hughes sooner. Our priority before the season should have been to get a decent centre-back in, which we failed to do. Nelsen was only expected to be a back-up player but ended up being our most important player which speaks volumes. A fair few players have been selfish and totally unprofessional over the course of the season. Redknapp spoke the truth when he said that we are paying these players way too much for what they are actually worth, and I don't think the players have taken to Redknapp because of his comments. It's basically all a shambles really. It's certainly a learning experience for Tony and co.
                The only 2 positive things about QPR this season are Remy and Townsend. I've enjoyed watching them play, and I think it's a real shame that we wont be seeing them pull on an R's shirt for much longer.

                Bring on the start of next season

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                • West Acton
                  CCG
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 21475

                  #23
                  Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
                  However I am not going to ignore the last 6 months where a new manager came in and did have a transfer market to deliver. Yes it wasn't ever going to be an easy job but looking at the league table shows no improvement.
                  There has been a 20 point improvement as on the ratio that Hughes was picking up points (4 in four months) we would have ended up with 9 come the end of the season and I can seriously have seen that happening

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                  • QPRDave
                    The number 10
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 32079

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
                    Tbh I think you're stating the obvious. We all clearly know that Hughes spent poorly and bought a very average side with big money. He didn't sign enough strikers and packed the midfield.

                    However I am not going to ignore the last 6 months where a new manager came in and did have a transfer market to deliver. Yes it wasn't ever going to be an easy job but looking at the league table shows no improvement. He loves stating the players but does he think his 3m a year contract has been just? The bloke hasn't done enough for me and I only see a few posters agreeing. I think many have jumped on the sun campaign to make out he is a world class manager, when in truth he is very average and has a pretty average record. Thankfully for england he did not become manager
                    You care more about England than QPR then weare

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                    • nasser95
                      Gold Seat
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7216

                      #25
                      What the club lacks is a clear transfer policy. We did not have priorities other than buy a new squad because the old one was full of championship players. This is where director of football comes in. The board could have said 'lets bring a director of football to deal with transfer policy' but to be fair to them, Hughes has a pretty excellent transfer history. He brought Samba, Kompany and Dembele to this country and they have all been massive successes. He also brought in Cisse last season who saved us and he has brought a few youth players here and there but ultimately, he was no matchday manager. Tactically he was poor and for all the science and tech improvements, on the pitch the club was in turmoil from the beginning and i feel it was due to his cold nature as an individual that alienated him from his players and when you sign as many characters as he did, that will ruin a club
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • SuperHoopNik
                        CCG
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 6660

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nasser95
                        What the club lacks is a clear transfer policy. We did not have priorities other than buy a new squad because the old one was full of championship players. This is where director of football comes in. The board could have said 'lets bring a director of football to deal with transfer policy' but to be fair to them, Hughes has a pretty excellent transfer history. He brought Samba, Kompany and Dembele to this country and they have all been massive successes. He also brought in Cisse last season who saved us and he has brought a few youth players here and there but ultimately, he was no matchday manager. Tactically he was poor and for all the science and tech improvements, on the pitch the club was in turmoil from the beginning and i feel it was due to his cold nature as an individual that alienated him from his players and when you sign as many characters as he did, that will ruin a club
                        Hughes would be better as a footballing director. Wouldn't have minded this especially if Warnock was still manager. Hughes could sort out the transfers, Warnock would handle the players.
                        "When you went to the corner and saw our fans celebrating the way they were you just wanted to be part of it" - Shaun Derry after we beat the scum 1-0

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                        • nasser95
                          Gold Seat
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7216

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SuperHoopNik
                          Hughes would be better as a footballing director. Wouldn't have minded this especially if Warnock was still manager. Hughes could sort out the transfers, Warnock would handle the players.
                          Exactly this. Someone with the passion and drive of warnock and the market understanding, long term vision and technological coaching abilities of hughes would have been perfect
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • West Acton
                            CCG
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 21475

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SuperHoopNik
                            Hughes would be better as a footballing director. Wouldn't have minded this especially if Warnock was still manager. Hughes could sort out the transfers, Warnock would handle the players.
                            Really Hughes sort out the transfers have you seen what he sanctioned in August. He has not got a clue his transfer policy is based on what he is offered not what he has scouted and assessed himself. He would not know a scout if it walked up and said dib dib dob dob. He lived off a false reputation. Remove rigg and Kia and who is he????

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                            • silvercue
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4704

                              #29
                              you should look at the owners for blame. They have not got a clue about football and it shows.
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                              • jmelanie
                                Gold Seat
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 7525

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SuperHoopNik
                                Hughes would be better as a footballing director. Wouldn't have minded this especially if Warnock was still manager. Hughes could sort out the transfers, Warnock would handle the players.
                                Warnock lost the dressing room and could not handle the players and Hughes' transfers were awful. Not a very good combination.

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