wigan

[Shania]

Indeed. Wonder if they would be honest.

No, but they ARE against us.:angry:

[DeepcutHoop]

Luck/dodgy refs have bugger all to do with it.

We've been ****e and deserve to be bottom.

[wortonranger]

Nonsense about the refs I'm afraid -every football fan in the country thinks that the ref is against their team - it simply isn't true! - we watch the game through biased eyes -refs make mistakes through human error, incompetence, lack of technology to support them etc - not through bias or cheating -that was Italy wasn't it?

[wortonranger]

just watched Wigan game and---

Aside from the lucky winning goal,, what a couple of poor teams. The amount of times posession was lost through poor passes, getting caught in posession etc made me want to cry -when it was Newcastle at least. If I supported either of those teams I would have found it a very frustrating watch. A pity we're so far behind -there are 6 points waitng for the taking off these two at least.

[MYU]

Sunderland 1 - 1 Norwich
Wigan 2 - 1 Newcastle
Spurs 0 - 1 Fulham

We must win the next two games who are Fulham followed by Wigan.

[Hitman34]

Nonsense about the refs I'm afraid -every football fan in the country thinks that the ref is against their team - it simply isn't true! - we watch the game through biased eyes -refs make mistakes through human error, incompetence, lack of technology to support them etc - not through bias or cheating -that was Italy wasn't it?

spot on post. cant believe some peoples mentality on this thread.

even blaming mark hughes for our impending relegation and being the soul culprit for it.

how easy it is to forget that if it were not for hughes, we probably wouldnt be playing fulham next week but most likely barnsley or peterborough.

[MattyRangers]

Luck/dodgy refs have bugger all to do with it.

We've been ****e and deserve to be bottom.

Nonsense about the refs I'm afraid -every football fan in the country thinks that the ref is against their team - it simply isn't true! - we watch the game through biased eyes -refs make mistakes through human error, incompetence, lack of technology to support them etc - not through bias or cheating -that was Italy wasn't it?

[Del]

At the end of the day some results will go for us in the run in, some wont. Yesterday was a sickener, however, we are playing well and if we keep it up will win more than we lose imo so will get 30something points.... will it be enough, only time will tell, but i would be a lot more concerend if we looked like a side who couldn't score or buy a win, like some at the moment.....

[Bracknell Neil]

Really!!!!!!! So how many other clubs normally get a goal 3 yards over the line ... Against the team that they are neck and neck with ??

[QPRDave]

Luck/dodgy refs have bugger all to do with it.

We've been ****e and deserve to be bottom.

course they have something to do with it, they make decisions that influence the outcome of game, which is why those decisions must be correct

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Should have seen Sunderland earlier on.
Now, if they don't go down this season, they must surely be nailed on for a bottom 3 spot next season?
The sending off got Sunderland off a hook they were struggling on, and they just about scraped a point.

[DeepcutHoop]

course they have something to do with it, they make decisions that influence the outcome of game, which is why those decisions must be correct

Obviously, but the odd bad decision is not terminal.

Our demise will be entirely our own doing, not a dodgy pen or red card or missed handball in a game that we're not even playing in.

[QPRDave]

Obviously, but the odd bad decision is not terminal.

Our demise will be entirely our own doing, not a dodgy pen or red card or missed handball in a game that we're not even playing in.

So wba's winning goal at lr which was a foul on Green is not referee's fault ? Arsenal's winner which is offside is entirely our own fault? 2 decisions that have cost us points through p*ss poor decisions by the officials that does have an effect on us and others. So a cr*p decision in one game won't effect other teams?....The whole nature of the game effects other teams......it's called a league table

[Matthew]

Wigan just really lucky

[DeepcutHoop]

So wba's winning goal at lr which was a foul on Green is not referee's fault ? Arsenal's winner which is offside is entirely our own fault? 2 decisions that have cost us points through p*ss poor decisions by the officials that does have an effect on us and others. So a cr*p decision in one game won't effect other teams?....The whole nature of the game effects other teams......it's called a league table

Yes, yes. And I'm sure some of our rivals have lost games due to some heinous injustice or another.

I'm just saying it makes very little difference over the course of the season. If we weren't so ****e we wouldn't be going down. Pointless trying to flail around trying to find excuses or aim accusations of incompetence or conspiracy around, when the major architects of our being rooted to the bottom of the table is our terrible terrible performances.