Should Washington be dropped?

[Shepherds Mush]

Dont think its got anything to do with confidence, he just hasn't got that natural vission/quality to sore goals. Hes had and is still getting easy chances put on a plate for him but continuously fluffs them.... 11 goals in 74 for us so far and 27 in 82 for Peterborough at league 1 level.

Dont get me wrong, can see why we signed him. Good age/good energy/gets into good positions and going on that it would seem he had a lot of potential, so well worth signing him. But hes had PLENTY of chances and opportunities and he's just proved over and over that he aint got it in him at this level.

Agree that he's had chances and all that but I wouldn't say he (or any other striker TBF) has had many on a plate as that would suggest we have midfielders who can create clear cut goalscoring chances.

[topperharley]

Agree that he's had chances and all that but I wouldn't say he (or any other striker TBF) has had many on a plate as that would suggest we have midfielders who can create clear cut goalscoring chances.

Freeman has supplied more assists than any other championship player this season, no?

[Shepherds Mush]

Freeman has supplied more assists than any other championship player this season, no?

From corners and free-kicks. Not what I would call on a plate.

[topperharley]

From corners and free-kicks. Not what I would call on a plate.

Granted. Though i think with the time Conor has had at the club, we should consider not passing the blame game down through the midfield. He has not impressed in his primary role, scoring goals, at all. Apart from one small spell this season.

I like the guy, just don't think we have the time for him to come good, he shouldv'e done that by now. We don't expect the world, but he doesn't produce enough. IMO.

[Shepherds Mush]

Granted. Though i think with the time Conor has had at the club, we should consider not passing the blame game down through the midfield. He has not impressed in his primary role, scoring goals, at all. Apart from one small spell this season.

I like the guy, just don't think we have the time for him to come good, he shouldv'e done that by now. We don't expect the world, but he doesn't produce enough. IMO.

Totally agree. Am not trying to pass the blame as ALL the strikers should be scoring more than they do. Just highlighting an issue I've had for a long time in that we just simply don't create enough chances and, for me, the midfield are just clueless going forward - particularly Luongo who seems to be incapable of choosing a pass when he eventually breaks forward.

[Stanley]

Totally agree. Am not trying to pass the blame as ALL the strikers should be scoring more than they do. Just highlighting an issue I've had for a long time in that we just simply don't create enough chances and, for me, the midfield are just clueless going forward - particularly Luongo who seems to be incapable of choosing a pass when he eventually breaks forward.

As said before IH playing 3 CMs is a waste of positions, eliminates natural width and doesn't play to our squad's strengths.

I believe we'd be higher up the table if he'd played the (obvious) system to suit the squad.

[dogsrrs]

It's prity easy to blame this awful system Ollie seems to prefer but I can see why he sticks to it even tho he hasn't got the players to play it , I'll give him credit if he sees it that he gets an extra man in mid field to compensate for our totally inadequate attack offering no threat , to combat leaving us to get over run in m/f and that would put our defence under constant pressure , probably wrong but just a thought

[Stanley]

inadequate attack

The attack is inadequate because he plays with no wingers. Granted we're not blessed with the most talented bunch of strikers but at least give them a fighting chance by servicing them with crosses from a winger or two, especially when Sylla, Smith and Wheeler are all strong in the air.

[topperharley]

It's prity easy to blame this awful system Ollie seems to prefer but I can see why he sticks to it even tho he hasn't got the players to play it , I'll give him credit if he sees it that he gets an extra man in mid field to compensate for our totally inadequate attack offering no threat , to combat leaving us to get over run in m/f and that would put our defence under constant pressure , probably wrong but just a thought

Kinda.

The best way to win games is to score more goals than other team. If you do not play with that as your primary concern, with the best possible players and system to achieve that. You cannot win games.

Too much over thinking from a manager that should be man managing and encouraging as that's his key strength i think.

[lymehoop]

I'd send him out on loan to the end of the season. I think there is a player there but his confidence seems shot

[Nick]

Agree that he's had chances and all that but I wouldn't say he (or any other striker TBF) has had many on a plate as that would suggest we have midfielders who can create clear cut goalscoring chances.

Sorry mush, but when I say "on a plate", I didint necessarily mean through our midfield. Whether it be free kick/goal kick/corner/deflection resuling in ball falling to him/or just a simple pass to him. Ive seen plenty of times where the ball has fallen to his feet, he has time and even just an easy goal scoring chance, and still somehow miss.

[Brian Wilson]

Couldn’t get his wages done under ffp rules I’m afraid https://t.co/PIop1yJ2bq

— Darragh MacAnthony (@DMAC102) December 18, 2017

No thanks https://t.co/7uZxlCHg5A

— Darragh MacAnthony (@DMAC102) December 18, 2017

[dogsrrs]

Kinda.

The best way to win games is to score more goals than other team. If you do not play with that as your primary concern, with the best possible players and system to achieve that. You cannot win games.

Too much over thinking from a manager that should be man managing and encouraging as that's his key strength i think.

At other times I'd agree with that Topper but come on hand on heart can you see this lot of dross we have up front out scoring any other side in this division , Smith can't start and last a game Washington is never a striker snaps and rushes chances Syla is the best of a bad bunch wheeler is an unknown quantity that obviously hasn't impressed the manager

[topperharley]

At other times I'd agree with that Topper but come on hand on heart can you see this lot of dross we have up front out scoring any other side in this division , Smith can't start and last a game Washington is never a striker snaps and rushes chances Syla is the best of a bad bunch wheeler is an unknown quantity that obviously hasn't impressed the manager

All the above is true the way Ollie is setting up shop.

He should just do it differently, more 'traditionally' I really think that's what most of this board and fan base want. It would certainly make alot of minds up as to wether or not he or the squad is the issue here.

Though on point, I think even with Zidane, Bobby Charlton and David Beckham setting up Washington he'd struggle to find the net as regular as we need.

[dogsrrs]

Topper I'd like to see us playing 4_4_2 but as I said I wonder if Ollie feels we still won't offer any more goal chances and after the early start the opposition will realise we have nothing to offer up front and have nothing to fear just kick on attacking the mid field and defend