Proud of our club who agrees?

[Stainrod]

Yes I am definitely behind the current modus operandi.
Though I am a little surprised
that none of the money that we received from the sale of Freeman/Furlong etc was not reinvented in this transfer window.

Because it was used to stop the club breaching ffp rules.

[Darkranger]

Yes I am definitely behind the current modus operandi.
Though I am a little surprised,
that none of the money that we received from the sale of Freeman/Furlong etc, was not reinvented in this transfer window.

[Stainrod]

I get the 3 year rolling period bit, but our finances will not really improve other than by selling players then replacing them and hoping to keep repeating the process until one day in the future we get enough of these gems to build a quality side. Hopefully we have a good scouting system in place for this. However, according to another thread QPR could have gone up to £2m to sign Wells, so if that is true then how come our scouts haven't found a striker to buy or even a new CB or keeper or has MW decided that he doesn't need anyone this season?

In that respect we are the same as Brentford, selling big and buying smart is what’s got them where they are now . Also we are a bigger club than them fan base wise so that would help our finances compared to them , even though they are moving to a new ground .If we had paid 2 million for Wells that would not have been a gamble as we know what he can do but I reckon the club thought this is not the time to spend that kind of money on what could be a gamble signing (Washington)for instance.The summer would have more players out of contract and easier to get more value for money as was proved with Wells and Hugill last summer .

[QPRDave]

QPRDave

38 points currently.

4 wins.... not sure we can make it

[stanistheman]

Ffp is judged over a 3 year rolling period and this is our last year of so called austerity. If we sell an asset from now on we can invest it in the squad again and start moving forward, like the Brentfords and Bristol citys etc. I know ffp can be complicated but fans need to start understanding it before they criticise the club .

I get the 3 year rolling period bit, but our finances will not really improve other than by selling players then replacing them and hoping to keep repeating the process until one day in the future we get enough of these gems to build a quality side. Hopefully we have a good scouting system in place for this. However, according to another thread QPR could have gone up to £2m to sign Wells, so if that is true then how come our scouts haven't found a striker to buy or even a new CB or keeper or has MW decided that he doesn't need anyone this season?

[Stainrod]

It's like watching a club in a plughole isn't it
Whirling down and down.
I keep seeing we will have money in the summer, and get better value.
We won't.

Dave you sound like you need a stiff drink fella , it’s not all doom and gloom . We could be Luton , or a Birmingham or sheff weds that will have to suffer this at some point , oh and derby and possibly others.

[Stainrod]

what will change exactly.

QPR currently have one of the lowest budgets in the division and even without paying a fine it still won't raise much in income unless we have players to sell for big fees. Our crowds will not really increase and QPR cannot seem to make money from other ways so I doubt anything will change.

Ffp is judged over a 3 year rolling period and this is our last year of so called austerity. If we sell an asset from now on we can invest it in the squad again and start moving forward, like the Brentfords and Bristol citys etc. I know ffp can be complicated but fans need to start understanding it before they criticise the club .

[QPRDave]

what will change exactly.

QPR currently have one of the lowest budgets in the division and even without paying a fine it still won't raise much in income unless we have players to sell for big fees. Our crowds will not really increase and QPR cannot seem to make money from other ways so I doubt anything will change.

Yep can't see how we will survive many more years at this level let alone a higher level

[QPRDave]

Yes they are that's why I think it is only a matter of time before our luck runs out.

60, 53, 56 and 51 this season maybe 48 followed by 52 and then 45 and down?

It's like watching a club in a plughole isn't it
Whirling down and down.
I keep seeing we will have money in the summer, and get better value.
We won't.

[stanistheman]

And it will stay same old until we come out of the other side of ffp.

what will change exactly.

QPR currently have one of the lowest budgets in the division and even without paying a fine it still won't raise much in income unless we have players to sell for big fees. Our crowds will not really increase and QPR cannot seem to make money from other ways so I doubt anything will change.

[stanistheman]

Good stats abs, thanks.
What are we on points wise at the moment?
I notice though our points are dropping each season

Yes they are that's why I think it is only a matter of time before our luck runs out.

60, 53, 56 and 51 this season maybe 48 followed by 52 and then 45 and down?

[stanistheman]

This is our 5th season back in Championship. Every season has seemed more or less the same. Our end of season points tallies (earliest season first) for the 4 complete seasons is 60, 53, 56 and 51.
The third from bottom club in those seasons had the following points: 40, 51 , 41 and 40. So apart from when Blackburn went down with 51 points and we stayed up with 53 points we have been fairly safe from relegation. But I think it's worth noting that every few years you can go down with 50ish points.
Today we are 1 point worse off than we were on 31st Jan last season and we have played 1 game more this season too..... this season thus far almost perfectly mirrors last season statistically so you can understand why some people will feel it's all a bit same old same old cos it really is same old same old.

good post.

But yes, there are those of us who are seeing no real improvement and feel that we are riding our luck somewhat and it won't be long before it runs out.

Yes, we have some better younger players coming through like Eze BOS & Chair, but what happens when they get sold? I don't see any other youngsters in the pipeline, so will have to hope the scouts can find some with the funds raised from selling the above 3, because we sure as hell won't be building a side around them. It would seem that the ambition for the next few years will be to carry on doing the same old thing.

[Fraggy]

QPRDave

38 points currently.

[Stainrod]

This is our 5th season back in Championship. Every season has seemed more or less the same. Our end of season points tallies (earliest season first) for the 4 complete seasons is 60, 53, 56 and 51.
The third from bottom club in those seasons had the following points: 40, 51 , 41 and 40. So apart from when Blackburn went down with 51 points and we stayed up with 53 points we have been fairly safe from relegation. But I think it's worth noting that every few years you can go down with 50ish points.
Today we are 1 point worse off than we were on 31st Jan last season and we have played 1 game more this season too..... this season thus far almost perfectly mirrors last season statistically so you can understand why some people will feel it's all a bit same old same old cos it really is same old same old.

And it will stay same old until we come out of the other side of ffp.

[QPRDave]

Good stats abs, thanks.
What are we on points wise at the moment?
I notice though our points are dropping each season