Who are you voting for today? (private poll)

[James1979]

He's a bit odd, yes. And unlikely to ever be PM material. But look at the other options.

Corbyn is an IRA sympathiser who refuses to sing the national anthem, failed his A Levels and worse than that, not only thought it was a good idea to appoint Diane Abbot as Shadow Home Secretary, he also thought it would be a good idea to give her one. How could you possibly trust this man's judgement on anything?!!

As for May. I just think she's a nasty piece of work. She'd have half the country living in paper boxes if it made her and her pals a few extra quid. I have a niece with Down Sydrome who was born under this current Conservative regime. And whilst I lean more to the right than the left, the bother my sister has had getting any care or support for her disabled child under this government is utterly disgusting.

Yeah Farron is odd. But I think his politics are preferable to the other 2 leading parties.

I actually joined Lib Dems, partly because I felt so strongly about EUrope but also I think that increasing income tax is best and most fair way to improve services. May is a very unimpressive PM. However, during this election it just made me realize that I need to accept the EU result and also Farron just got on my nerves!

Good having a debate with you and Hubble during these weeks. Even if we have some different views on a lot of things!

[Tarbie]

I actually joined Lib Dems, partly because I felt so strongly about EUrope but also I think that increasing income tax is best and most fair way to improve services. May is a very unimpressive PM. However, during this election it just made me realize that I need to accept the EU result and also Farron just got on my nerves!

Good having a debate with you and Hubble during these weeks. Even if we have some different views on a lot of things!

That's what it's all about mate.

[lymehoop]

Lending a vote to ensure this corrupt country cant over turn our historic victory.
First and last ever time as well

ditto Kev.

[Hubble]

I actually joined Lib Dems, partly because I felt so strongly about EUrope but also I think that increasing income tax is best and most fair way to improve services. May is a very unimpressive PM. However, during this election it just made me realize that I need to accept the EU result and also Farron just got on my nerves!

Good having a debate with you and Hubble during these weeks. Even if we have some different views on a lot of things!

Likewise James - debate is the lifeblood of political discourse and I think we all learn from each other, even if we disagree.





Tarbs - Corbyn is not an IRA sympathiser, that's a right-wing press smear - the truth is he sympathised with the cause of a united Ireland and also human rights for political prisoners - he did not ever support the methods the IRA employed. And as a republican myself, I have great sympathy with him for refusing to sing the national anthem and standing in respectful silence instead. I call that brave and principled, I know others will strongly disagree. I never sing it either, at football matches or elsewhere. Personal choice in a relatively free country should be respected I think.

As for failing his A levels - good grief, if that's your reasoning in terms of ability it's seriously misguided! So many super-successful businesspeople failed their O and A levels it's almost a sign that passing them makes you too conditioned to be a properly effective leader! I certainly don't hold that against him. As for appointing Diane Abbot - he had little choice after the majority of the PLP stabbed him in the back in an attempt to oust him. Following his very good election performance and the strong upturn in support for Labour, in particular among the young, they have unsurprisingly changed their minds. I have too. I thought he was too wishy-washy to be an effective leader - I've changed my mind. He's really impressed me in recent weeks and I know that's true for a lot of others. The right-wing press smears, especially in today's Mail and Sun are disgraceful IMO.

Anyway, you and everyone else has their opinions and apart from your views on Corbyn, you've made some excellent points in the recent debates on here Tarbs and I've really appreciated your depth of knowledge and humanity.

[Tarbie]

Likewise James - debate is the lifeblood of political discourse and I think we all learn from each other, even if we disagree.





Tarbs - Corbyn is not an IRA sympathiser, that's a right-wing press smear - the truth is he sympathised with the cause of a united Ireland and also human rights for political prisoners - he did not ever support the methods the IRA employed. And as a republican myself, I have great sympathy with him for refusing to sing the national anthem and standing in respectful silence instead. I call that brave and principled, I know others will strongly disagree. I never sing it either, at football matches or elsewhere. Personal choice in a relatively free country should be respected I think.

As for failing his A levels - good grief, if that's your reasoning in terms of ability it's seriously misguided! So many super-successful businesspeople failed their O and A levels it's almost a sign that passing them makes you too conditioned to be a properly effective leader! I certainly don't hold that against him. As for appointing Diane Abbot - he had little choice after the majority of the PLP stabbed him in the back in an attempt to oust him. Following his very good election performance and the strong upturn in support for Labour, in particular among the young, they have unsurprisingly changed their minds. I have too. I thought he was too wishy-washy to be an effective leader - I've changed my mind. He's really impressed me in recent weeks and I know that's true for a lot of others. The right-wing press smears, especially in today's Mail and Sun are disgraceful IMO.

Anyway, you and everyone else has their opinions and apart from your views on Corbyn, you've made some excellent points in the recent debates on here Tarbs and I've really appreciated your depth of knowledge and humanity.

Fair enough mate.

Never gonna be a fan of Corbyn, or of socialism for that matter. I think extreme left wing views are almost as dangerous to a society like ours as extreme right. Point taken on some of the other stuff. I haven't got much in the way of qualifications myself. But then again, I limited my ambitions to running a small company as opposed to a nation and a multi-billion pound economy.

I have to be honest, I also don't like the idea of a guy running the country who is so anti-monarchy, anti-establishment and so generally controversial. There are certain things expected of you as the British PM, and I'm sorry but in my opinion, he needs to suck it up and sing the anthem.

I notice that you haven't corrected me on my thoughts about Theresa May though?!!

[Itsonlyagame]

Likewise James - debate is the lifeblood of political discourse and I think we all learn from each other, even if we disagree.





Tarbs - Corbyn is not an IRA sympathiser, that's a right-wing press smear - the truth is he sympathised with the cause of a united Ireland and also human rights for political prisoners - he did not ever support the methods the IRA employed. And as a republican myself, I have great sympathy with him for refusing to sing the national anthem and standing in respectful silence instead. I call that brave and principled, I know others will strongly disagree. I never sing it either, at football matches or elsewhere. Personal choice in a relatively free country should be respected I think.

As for failing his A levels - good grief, if that's your reasoning in terms of ability it's seriously misguided! So many super-successful businesspeople failed their O and A levels it's almost a sign that passing them makes you too conditioned to be a properly effective leader! I certainly don't hold that against him. As for appointing Diane Abbot - he had little choice after the majority of the PLP stabbed him in the back in an attempt to oust him. Following his very good election performance and the strong upturn in support for Labour, in particular among the young, they have unsurprisingly changed their minds. I have too. I thought he was too wishy-washy to be an effective leader - I've changed my mind. He's really impressed me in recent weeks and I know that's true for a lot of others. The right-wing press smears, especially in today's Mail and Sun are disgraceful IMO.

Anyway, you and everyone else has their opinions and apart from your views on Corbyn, you've made some excellent points in the recent debates on here Tarbs and I've really appreciated your depth of knowledge and humanity.

Corbyn has definitely come across a lot better over the last few weeks and I don't have an issue with a lot of his policies, which is more than can an be said for for that old hag May.
But the one fundamental issue I have with him is his ability to maintain security in this country.
I agree bombing other countries has encouraged terrorists to bomb us but the horse has bolted now in my opinion.
We could dislocate ourselves from what's going on in Syria etc and even offer to sit around the table with Isis but I don't think that would make a blind bit of difference. Those €unts are on a mission now and whatever we do or say won't change their goal.
What worries me about Corbyn is would he be prepared to get tough on people over here who the police feel need removing

[Itsonlyagame]

Corbyn has definitely come across a lot better over the last few weeks and I don't have an issue with a lot of his policies, which is more than can an be said for for that old hag May.
But the one fundamental issue I have with him is his ability to maintain security in this country.
I agree bombing other countries has encouraged terrorists to bomb us but the horse has bolted now in my opinion.
We could dislocate ourselves from what's going on in Syria etc and even offer to sit around the table with Isis but I don't think that would make a blind bit of difference. Those €unts are on a mission now and whatever we do or say won't change their goal.
What worries me about Corbyn is would he be prepared to get tough on people over here who the police feel need removing

Hadn't finished there !
He seems a bit naive to me. Only the other day he was asked if he would be willing to order a relatiatory nuclear strike if we came under attack. He wouldn't say yes. Surely to Christ he must know the whole point of nuclear weapons is to act as a deterent. By not giving a clear message he'd be willing to use them he's blown that concept straight out of the water.
We all know he's pro disarmament but for fu€Ks sake Jeremy, at least play the game.

[Tarbie]

Hadn't finished there !
He seems a bit naive to me. Only the other day he was asked if he would be willing to order a relatiatory nuclear strike if we came under attack. He wouldn't say yes. Surely to Christ he must know the whole point of nuclear weapons is to act as a deterent. By not giving a clear message he'd be willing to use them he's blown that concept straight out of the water.
We all know he's pro disarmament but for fu€Ks sake Jeremy, at least play the game.

Kind of an extension on my sentiments.

Too busy pushing his own views and fighting his own causes to do what's required of the PM at times. I understand why a lot of the under 40's like him, but I think he'd be a god awful PM.

[Hubble]

Many UK veterans disagree with you Tarbs and many others on Corbyn - very interesting, very moving viewing (stick with it)...

[Tarbie]

Many UK veterans disagree with you Tarbs and many others on Corbyn - very interesting, very moving viewing (stick with it)...

Of course the veterans will like him mate. They know he wont be sending our lads to be shot at in wars we shouldn't be fighting. I agree on that front. His foreign policy would without a doubt be better than any Torie. I just don't trust him for a whole host of other reasons.

[Tarbie]

Never gonna agree on this one by the way Hubs. Just gonna put that out there early doors. I really don't like the man!

[Hubble]

Of course the veterans will like him mate. They know he wont be sending our lads to be shot at in wars we shouldn't be fighting. I agree on that front. His foreign policy would without a doubt be better than any Torie. I just don't trust him for a whole host of other reasons.

I get you - he's an unknown quantity. But May is a proven liar and a proven utterly useless Home Secretary - massive, increased immigration under her watch and the crazy cuts to the police, how can you trust her? Well, you don't.

[Tarbie]

I get you - he's an unknown quantity. But May is a proven liar and a proven utterly useless Home Secretary - massive, increased immigration under her watch and the crazy cuts to the police, how can you trust her? Well, you don't.

Well you know my thoughts on May mate. And I appreciate it has to be one or the other. Not massively upbeat about the next few years to be honest. Not in the UK or elsewhere in the world.

[Hubble]

Well you know my thoughts on May mate. And I appreciate it has to be one or the other. Not massively upbeat about the next few years to be honest. Not in the UK or elsewhere in the world.

Turbulent times Tarbs.

[vanhoop]

Voted may to continue brexit, corbyn is a complete loon . Slipped abbot a length? That on its own deserves poo pooing . Labour win and I'm selling me house to protect my kids education and future!! Mate was up Hammersmith hospital today and sent me a picture of a sign. Multi prayer faith room with arrow and Muslim prayer room with arrow. Country is f u cked, time this filth stopped. Pray in the same room and lets get along . You Muslims ain't special