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Did you not read the title of the thread. ONLY ENGLAND PLAYERS PLEASE"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Exactly my point, you've never heard of them and yet there they are, winning the world cup. Does that make them world class?
Also, you know typing in watsisname takes longer than typing in Barone, which is actually a pretty easy name to type and remember.
Just to point out, I have a job in football, its my job to know some things and do research, doesn't mean I don't have a life and getting petty like that is a bit sad.
You still haven't answered the question R_I_G asked"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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so you knew all those players off the top of your head and didn't need to use googleExactly my point, you've never heard of them and yet there they are, winning the world cup. Does that make them world class?
Also, you know typing in watsisname takes longer than typing in Barone, which is actually a pretty easy name to type and remember.
Just to point out, I have a job in football, its my job to know some things and do research, doesn't mean I don't have a life and getting petty like that is a bit sad.
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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Ok i asked 3 times and as you are refusing to answer as the answer invalids your "opinion" we will just leave it there.
You are entitled to an opinion but in this case your opinion is wrong and you know it, which is why you wont answer a simple question.Comment
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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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Ye gods! You two pedants really take the cake.
72bus's POINT was that England have not had any world class players in recent years (in his opinion) and he supported it with the fact that England have not won the World Cup since 1966. This is a perfectly valid point. He obviously slipped up with one of his posts because there are certainly World Class players who have not won the World Cup but it doesn't invalidate his main point or change the fact that World Class players often inspire their team to victory.
Get over it FFS.Last edited by dsqpr; 14-10-2015, 03:39 AM.'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.Comment
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You're mates getting told some facts and you can't help but defend? C'mon man its a debate here. You have done no criticism of anything he's said but call us pedants for disproving his point. How bout calling him out as a pedant for questioning RIG's grammar, or for not actually making any statement relevant to the conversation after the first 2 or 3 posts. Honestly, Its a bit ridiculous for you to give us flak when he spent most of this insulting or berating RIG and I. In general, you and I have many disagreements so I can't say I'm surprised that I get a call out here instead of 72 despite him being the only one not talking about anything football for most of this 'Slug it out'Ye gods! You two pedants really take the cake.
72bus's POINT was that England have not had any world class players in recent years (in his opinion) and he supported it with the fact that England have not won the World Cup since 1966. This is a perfectly valid point. He obviously slipped up with one of his posts because there are certainly World Class players who have not won the World Cup but it doesn't invalidate his main point or change the fact that World Class players often inspire their team to victory.
Get over it FFS."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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You argue with everyoneYou're mates getting told some facts and you can't help but defend? C'mon man its a debate here. You have done no criticism of anything he's said but call us pedants for disproving his point. How bout calling him out as a pedant for questioning RIG's grammar, or for not actually making any statement relevant to the conversation after the first 2 or 3 posts. Honestly, Its a bit ridiculous for you to give us flak when he spent most of this insulting or berating RIG and I. In general, you and I have many disagreements so I can't say I'm surprised that I get a call out here instead of 72 despite him being the only one not talking about anything football for most of this 'Slug it out'Comment
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I played sunday league football today.
Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.
I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.
We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!Comment
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