Burton 1 QPR 3 **Match Thread**

[Stanley]

You could say the opposite after a poor result Stan, it gives some the ideal opportunity to celebrate!

Or just do a spot of spleen venting. Better than giving you an ulcer

[Pinkie]

HAHAHAHAHAHA What about strikers? Is it not especially them? How are you going around giving this sorta statement and expecting me to take you seriously. Football is about getting goals and not conceding them. A striker's number one job is to score. A midfielder's job is dependent on his role but no midfielder has the number one job of scoring. They usually have creating and defending. Scoring can be a byproduct, but it almost never is the primary. Even those Yaya Toure and Lampard seasons of 20 goals from them, they were still defending, still creating as their primary goals, they just happened to add goals to their repertoire.

A striker should be scoring and when the team isn't scoring enough, you don't look anywhere before you look at the strikers. If they aren't doing their job, you don't say "well the midfield should pick up their slack", you say "well these strikers are cack, lets play different ones". Oteh and Smyth both scored on their first starts for the club, Wheeler scored on his first start as a striker for the club. IF they can keep it up, great, then maybe you'll finally realise that it is a striker's job to deal with the pressure of being the team's primary source of goals along with the wingers who in most cases are also required to score. If they can't deal with that pressure, then they're cack strikers. But you don't blame the midfield for the lack of goals when the strikers aren't setting the right examples in the first place.

At some times in football the strikers have barren spells, if we stick to youre idea we dont need midfielders scoring, youd be going on a losing run son, like ive said you obviously dont know everything about football apart from looking at stats! even though its basics about wanting/needing others to chip in

[Ginger Ninja]

Or just do a spot of spleen venting. Better than giving you an ulcer

What's the saying...a moan a day keeps the doctor away?

[Stanley]

What's the saying...a moan a day keeps the doctor away?

Exactly mate

[Nick]

What's the saying...a moan a day keeps the doctor away?

This must be the healthiest forum out there..

[Ginger Ninja]

This must be the healthiest forum out there..

Me, Pinks and Kev are in big trouble

[FurtiveFox]

At some times in football the strikers have barren spells, if we stick to youre idea we dont need midfielders scoring, youd be going on a losing run son, like ive said you obviously dont know everything about football apart from looking at stats! even though its basics about wanting/needing others to chip in

He gave you a whole load of evidence! Yes in my view midfielders should score more but God has not set up the team to make the best of strikers we do have.

[Pinkie]

He gave you a whole load of evidence! Yes in my view midfielders should score more but God has not set up the team to make the best of strikers we do have.

A whole load of evidence lol, if you like him want to believe its not important for midfielders to score, well youre as bad as him in his football knowlege, & not just about stats.

[Pinkie]

He gave you a whole load of evidence! Yes in my view midfielders should score more but God has not set up the team to make the best of strikers we do have.

How i look at this is quite funny, as you biting on another qpr away win, shows ollies doing something right which you hate carry on...

[Pinkie]

Nas/furtive, so you reckon its still not important for midfielders to chip in even if a team has one uptop?! even 442 its important for youre midfield to chip in aswell as the odd goals from defenders if they can.

[1973 ranger]

Our midfield do not score nowhere near enough and yesterday was great to see the goals shared.

[FurtiveFox]

Nas/furtive, so you reckon its still not important for midfielders to chip in even if a team has one uptop?! even 442 its important for youre midfield to chip in aswell as the odd goals from defenders if they can.

The point Nasser was trying to make was plenty sides do well without much goal contribution from midfield. Entirely agree in our case could do with them scoring more. Doesn't help though team set up has in my view affected form of our rather limited strikers. Decent win yesterday, will be interesting to see if Washington can follow up and how Oteh/Smyth develop.

[Pinkie]

The point Nasser was trying to make was plenty sides do well without much goal contribution from midfield. Entirely agree in our case could do with them scoring more. Doesn't help though team set up has in my view affected form of our rather limited strikers. Decent win yesterday, will be interesting to see if Washington can follow up and how Oteh/Smyth develop.

The teams he named were all top teams, but thats not the point, as a team youll be not alot of cop without youre midfield and others chipping in, bit simular to us and with our strikers not scoring a great deal we`ve struggled! and i agree 73, yet im getting told its unimportant being compared to top flight teams lol

[Pinkie]

The point Nasser was trying to make was plenty sides do well without much goal contribution from midfield. Entirely agree in our case could do with them scoring more. Doesn't help though team set up has in my view affected form of our rather limited strikers. Decent win yesterday, will be interesting to see if Washington can follow up and how Oteh/Smyth develop.

Yeah agree about washington & oteh/smyth etc, and us, goto keep the momentum going now.

[nasser95]

The teams he named were all top teams, but thats not the point, as a team youll be not alot of cop without youre midfield and others chipping in, bit simular to us and with our strikers not scoring a great deal we`ve struggled! and i agree 73, yet im getting told its unimportant being compared to top flight teams lol

And they became top teams without needing goalscoring midfielders. Clubs are set up differently and there are clubs that are reliant on midfielders to score and there are clubs who aren't. Ultimately, I don't think anyone really believes that a midfield should be relied upon for goals because that's what you want from your strikers. Midfielders have the most responsibilities on the pitch and you seem to want to add goalscoring to that instead of demanding it of our strikers.

Washington and Oteh scored yesterday, Smyth scored in the last league game, Smith scored too, we need that more than anything. When they don't score, the blame seems to be that "oh well if we had a midfield who scored we wouldn't have a problem" which imo is wrong. We should be saying, why tf aren't our strikers scoring, we should change the system to ensure that everyone is able to do the bare minimum job required of them. Defenders need to be able to defend, midfielders need to be able to create and defend, wingers need to be able to run, cross and score and strikers have to be able to score.

As another example of a big team, Real Madrid play with Benzema up top and fans are disgusted, logically so... why? Because he doesn't score... they don't go around saying "oh well modric should be scoring more to take some of the pressure off", they're using their heads and saying why tf isn't our striker scoring, lets get someone in who can.