The way to survive

[qblockoompah]

Reading are a poor team, should be beating teams like them comfortably. We will be ok lads I keep going over n over everything and think everything is just an inch in our favour. Some very winnable home games, coupled with at least 3 winnable away games. If we win 3 home 2 away that for me will see us home in time for a beano in Liverpool

[Rangers77]

Reading - Can't see them picking up more then 6 points till the end of season.

So long as three of them aren't against us....

[MYU]

Reading - Can't see them picking up more then 6 points till the end of season.

[zeberdee]

I don't think it is particular games so much. Obviously Jan/Feb contained some nightmare fixtures and March/April more winnable games but that don't tell the main story.

There are some massive problems in the team the biggest are that there are weak links in the squad (CM+goals) which means lots of twists and turns are needed to function and also the team is brittle and has rarely worked or fought as a team this season so it lacks consistency.

Harry's job is to put lipstick on a pig. He done that with the win vs Fulham (moving Adel to #10), then he put a dress on it vs CFC (moving Adel to false #9), then added a big hat vs Saints (2 strikers) so the 3 wins have come from big changes - which is not a good sign really, far better to have success with a consistent team, but it is all that is available.

So my guess is it will be a messy, up/down, changing team and system producing a mixture of inconsistent results that you are never sure where you are - as likely to beat Arsenal and lose to Reading as anything - because there are so many band aids on wounds that not all of them will stick all of the time.

The good news though is that the team won last game, and looked OK for the first time without 10 men behind the ball, so maybe they can repeat that vs Sunderland.

TLDR -too much inconsistency to predict results but more signs for optimism than a week ago.

Win #4 from a change to 442 - that pig is starting to look a bit tasty

[12321]

We can list fixtures and try predict who will beat who etc a million times over but the bottom line is we need more points that 3 other teams in the league. Or same points at a better GD. Simple.

That's what I said!

But in a more roundabout circling around the bush (shaved) kind of way.....

[MattyRangers]

We can list fixtures and try predict who will beat who etc a million times over but the bottom line is we need more points that 3 other teams in the league. Or same points at a better GD. Simple.

[Rich]

Wigan's run in looks ok for them, that's my worry of we don't beat them ourselves

[Kit]

This is one way to look at it

Reading has still to play M.U, Ars, Liv and M.C no points there – they would need 14 of possible 18 points from remaining 6 games to reach 37.
Aston Villa has still to play Liv, M.U and Che no points there – so they need 13 out of possible 21 to reach 37
Wigan has still to play M.C, Tot, Ars, Swa and Wba – 1w out of that so they would need 10 out of 15 possible to reach 37
Southampton has still to play Liv, Che, Tot, Swa and Wba – 4 points out of that so the would only need 6 points of the 15 to reach 37

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that, I made the same mistake about Wigan last year then they took 6 points from Arsenal away and Manure at home, take off 4 of those points and they could well have got relegated, as moral would have been different had they drawn both.
I hope that games go to plan this year and we could just survive but any anomalies will make it unlikely, unless of course those anomalies are us winning at Everton and Liverpool !

[12321]

Another way to look at it is that

1. We have to repeat what happened last weekend once more this season ( win while EACH of our 3 relegation rivals lose)
Won't work UNLESS all three lose.
2. We have to then draw a game while EACH of our relegation rivals lose a game. Again wont work unless all three lose.

3. For the remaining 8 games after the above happens, we have simply to match the best result of all of our 3 rivals (e.g. If Villa and Reading lose a game and Wigan win, we also HAVE to win too as well. (Also too as well, is that a form of repetition?)


Points 1 and 2 above are concerned with catching up.
Point 3 is all about staying ahead.

That's probably as clear as mud but I think I know what I'm trying to say.....

[hh9]

This is one way to look at it

Reading has still to play M.U, Ars, Liv and M.C no points there – they would need 14 of possible 18 points from remaining 6 games to reach 37.
Aston Villa has still to play Liv, M.U and Che no points there – so they need 13 out of possible 21 to reach 37
Wigan has still to play M.C, Tot, Ars, Swa and Wba – 1w out of that so they would need 10 out of 15 possible to reach 37
Southampton has still to play Liv, Che, Tot, Swa and Wba – 4 points out of that so the would only need 6 points of the 15 to reach 37

[willis1980]

in case anybody cares

Reading Fixtures

March 2013

Reading V Aston Villa
Sat 9 Mar 15:00


Man Utd V Reading
Sat 16 Mar 17:30


Arsenal V Reading
Sat 30 Mar 15:00
April 2013

Reading V Southampton
Sat 6 Apr 12:45

Reading V Liverpool
Sat 13 Apr 15:00

Norwich V Reading
Sat 20 Apr 15:00

Reading V QPR
Sun 28 Apr 13:30
May 2013

Fulham V Reading
Sat 4 May 15:00

Reading V Man City
Sun 12 May 15:00

West Ham V Reading
Sun 19 May 16:00



Aston Villa Fixtures

March 2013

Reading V Aston Villa
Sat 9 Mar 15:00

Aston Villa V QPR
Sat 16 Mar 15:00

Aston Villa V Liverpool
Sun 31 Mar 13:30

April 2013

Stoke V Aston Villa
Sat 6 Apr 15:00

Aston Villa V Fulham
Sat 13 Apr 15:00

Man Utd V Aston Villa
Mon 22 Apr 20:00

Aston Villa V Sunderland
Sat 27 Apr 15:00
May 2013

Norwich V Aston Villa
Sat 4 May 15:00

Aston Villa V Chelsea
Sun 12 May 15:00

Wigan V Aston Villa
Sun 19 May 16:00


Wigan Athletic Fixtures

March 2013

Wigan V Newcastle
Sun 17 Mar 16:00
Premier League

Wigan V Norwich
Sat 30 Mar 15:00

April 2013

QPR V Wigan
Sun 7 Apr 16:10

Wigan V Swansea
Sat 13 Apr 15:00

West Ham V Wigan
Sat 20 Apr 15:00

Wigan V Tottenham
Sat 27 Apr 15:00

May 2013

West Brom V Wigan
Sat 4 May 15:00

Arsenal V Wigan
Sun 12 May 15:00

Wigan V Aston Villa
Sun 19 May 16:00

[hh9]

Key games left
Rea-A.V,
A.V-QPR,
QPR-Wig,
Rea-Sou,
Rea-QPR,
Wig-A.V
Wow Reading have 3 against bottom teams at home

[Droghoop]

I don't think it is particular games so much. Obviously Jan/Feb contained some nightmare fixtures and March/April more winnable games but that don't tell the main story.

There are some massive problems in the team the biggest are that there are weak links in the squad (CM+goals) which means lots of twists and turns are needed to function and also the team is brittle and has rarely worked or fought as a team this season so it lacks consistency.

Harry's job is to put lipstick on a pig. He done that with the win vs Fulham (moving Adel to #10), then he put a dress on it vs CFC (moving Adel to false #9), then added a big hat vs Saints (2 strikers) so the 3 wins have come from big changes - which is not a good sign really, far better to have success with a consistent team, but it is all that is available.

So my guess is it will be a messy, up/down, changing team and system producing a mixture of inconsistent results that you are never sure where you are - as likely to beat Arsenal and lose to Reading as anything - because there are so many band aids on wounds that not all of them will stick all of the time.

The good news though is that the team won last game, and looked OK for the first time without 10 men behind the ball, so maybe they can repeat that vs Sunderland.

TLDR -too much inconsistency to predict results but more signs for optimism than a week ago.

I tend to agree, i still think we can do it, but it's going to be completely unconventional ie - losing to Sunderland and Villa and maybe beating Everton, Arsenal and Newcastle.... it's the QPR way.

[zeberdee]

I don't think it is particular games so much. Obviously Jan/Feb contained some nightmare fixtures and March/April more winnable games but that don't tell the main story.

There are some massive problems in the team the biggest are that there are weak links in the squad (CM+goals) which means lots of twists and turns are needed to function and also the team is brittle and has rarely worked or fought as a team this season so it lacks consistency.

Harry's job is to put lipstick on a pig. He done that with the win vs Fulham (moving Adel to #10), then he put a dress on it vs CFC (moving Adel to false #9), then added a big hat vs Saints (2 strikers) so the 3 wins have come from big changes - which is not a good sign really, far better to have success with a consistent team, but it is all that is available.

So my guess is it will be a messy, up/down, changing team and system producing a mixture of inconsistent results that you are never sure where you are - as likely to beat Arsenal and lose to Reading as anything - because there are so many band aids on wounds that not all of them will stick all of the time.

The good news though is that the team won last game, and looked OK for the first time without 10 men behind the ball, so maybe they can repeat that vs Sunderland.

TLDR -too much inconsistency to predict results but more signs for optimism than a week ago.

[acricketer]

I think we will pick up 4 more wins, 5 would clinch it but it's a huge ask. Still a mountain to climb.