QPR in the Championship

[hal9thou]

So building the new academy is not a long haul investment? Planning a new stadium is not a long haul investment? The reason many experienced pros were brought in was to try and keep us in the prem.

You're not seriously still thinking about the new stadium are you? It is absolutely the bottom item on our list, if things continue to slide we'd have trouble filling LR. QPR are not about new stadiums. We are small club who once found success by learning to play football. And then we forgot how to do that. We need to rediscover that ethos. I'd rather watch us play decent football on the scrubs then become the laughing stock that we so deservedly are.

not sure where on earth we are going to "save" any money - more like spending millions to buy players out of long contracts, or being stuck with them, all supported by dwindling parachute payments.

good point, I got carried away.... we may have to make to do with home grown kids, and we may struggle for a year or two. That's fine by me if it marks the start of a re-appraisal of what this club is about. That's long term for you...

OK, but don't them complain because we haven't signed anyone in the summer and our best players (such as they are) all leave...

That is the reality and we can't have it both ways. Our best players have failed us. I don't want a side that brings Championship success and then goes missing faced with some proper talent.

The real challenge will be finding someone to oversee the revolution, Hughes was never going to be that person because he doesn't get it - he isn't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as someone like Martinez, who, lest we forget, gave Swansea the culture they currently enjoy.

Funny to think we played that way all those years ago.....

[Shania]

Look at Wolves.

[qblockpete]

As a supporter/player you always want to pit your wits against the best clubs, but lets get real so much baggage comes with playing in the Premiership.

You are never going to win the Premier league and the ambition for our club is simply to survive. In the Championship, you have more of a laugh and fans in general are far happier. Plus, you have a great chance of getting promoted with all clubs on a fairly level playing field

[hal9thou]

Look at Wolves.

And Arsenal. They've got a new stadium and the financial constraints that came with it, the supporters aren't happy and the club has to keep selling.

Commitment to a new stadium now would be madness. It would be asking for trouble. Some of us though this and said so before the season even started, and since then events have clearly demonstrated that we have to prioritise elsewhere.

[jmelanie]

Let's face it very few fans in the premiership are really going to be happy. Very few clubs have a chance of winning the division or even finishing in the top five. For the others they manage to survive and can expect mid table at best.

[bonheurjh]

Can't believe Cardiff is really doing well. will be bit disappointed if we drops. But still have faith in our players and manager.