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  • theblackmafia.
    Silver Seat
    • Sep 2009
    • 3996

    #16
    Originally posted by zuluop
    Statistics NEVER lie.....and will NEVER lie in the future. To be absolutely guaranteed sure to stay up we need 7 points every 4 games. Is that possible? I think not.
    Correlation does not imply causation

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    • QPR71
      Silver Seat
      • Jul 2012
      • 3055

      #17
      Originally posted by theblackmafia.
      Correlation does not imply causation
      or guarantee outcome. or we would all be rich from the bookies

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      • zuluop
        Silver Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 1055

        #18
        Nope - I am sure you will be rich if you put all your money on us staying up and win 7 of the last 13.

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        • QPR71
          Silver Seat
          • Jul 2012
          • 3055

          #19
          Originally posted by zuluop
          Nope - I am sure you will be rich if you put all your money on us staying up and win 7 of the last 13.
          what im saying is...if your statistics prove that it is impossible for us to reach your guarantee figure, why do those statistics not also prove it
          will be difficult for 3 others.

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          • theblackmafia.
            Silver Seat
            • Sep 2009
            • 3996

            #20
            Originally posted by zuluop
            Nope - I am sure you will be rich if you put all your money on us staying up and win 7 of the last 13.
            What happen if the other teams do the same?

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            • QPR71
              Silver Seat
              • Jul 2012
              • 3055

              #21
              Originally posted by theblackmafia.
              What happen if the other teams do the same?
              then you get a low total for safety...if we all go on a run you get a high total.....when averaged you get 38points
              which may or may not happen this season...im sure near the end of the season last year that blackburn suddenly jumped
              6 points clear of us

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              • theblackmafia.
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2009
                • 3996

                #22
                Originally posted by QPR71
                then you get a low total for safety...if we all go on a run you get a high total.....when averaged you get 38points
                which may or may not happen this season
                Seriously?!...it was a sarcastic reply!...we could go on a run (as if!) and win 7 but so could the others so we are still bottom...stats are bollards until you need them to swing an argument your way...just a shame someone can then use them to swing it their way!

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                • QPR71
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3055

                  #23
                  Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                  Seriously?!...it was a sarcastic reply!...we could go on a run (as if!) and win 7 but so could the others so we are still bottom...stats are bollards until you need them to swing an argument your way...just a shame someone can then use them to swing it their way!
                  sorry, i realised it was sarcastic and my post didnt reflect that. i was expanding on your point

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                  • zuluop
                    Silver Seat
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1055

                    #24
                    Stats are facts not fiction - only if you only look at some of the stats you like best and single them out.
                    This is an average over many seasons so unless the moon is suddenly made of cheese or the sun has become cold I believe the same thing will happen this year. It is not rocket science you know.

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                    • Timmy the Doc
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 3193

                      #25
                      Originally posted by zuluop
                      Statistics NEVER lie.....and will NEVER lie in the future. To be absolutely guaranteed sure to stay up we need 7 points every 4 games. Is that possible? I think not.
                      I'm with you and the OP. We need to have 35-40 points to stay up. 7 points from every 4 games describes that well. Not easy - not impossible.

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                      • theblackmafia.
                        Silver Seat
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3996

                        #26
                        Originally posted by QPR71
                        sorry, i realised it was sarcastic and my post didnt reflect that. i was expanding on your point
                        All good

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                        • QPR71
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 3055

                          #27
                          Originally posted by zuluop
                          Stats are facts not fiction - only if you only look at some of the stats you like best and single them out.
                          This is an average over many seasons so unless the moon is suddenly made of cheese or the sun has become cold I believe the same thing will happen this year. It is not rocket science you know.
                          no...the data is fact, the outcome is unknown. your statistics would have proved as fact that we would get relegated last season. and that wigan should have been
                          relegated 5 times. your stats looked at 4 weeks ago would point to reading having about 9 points less than they have today
                          Last edited by QPR71; 03-02-2013, 01:05 PM.

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                          • theblackmafia.
                            Silver Seat
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3996

                            #28
                            Originally posted by zuluop
                            Stats are facts not fiction - only if you only look at some of the stats you like best and single them out.
                            This is an average over many seasons so unless the moon is suddenly made of cheese or the sun has become cold I believe the same thing will happen this year. It is not rocket science you know.
                            You may believe it but it does not mean it will happen does it?!...you can use stats to give some insight to a possibility but it is not fact...keep up.

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                            • zuluop
                              Silver Seat
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1055

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
                              I'm with you and the OP. We need to have 35-40 points to stay up. 7 points from every 4 games describes that well. Not easy - not impossible.

                              Not impossible at all - but like I have tried to say many times we need to start scoring goals and win a couple comfortably to gain momentum and confidence we need to go on the run we need.

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                              • theblackmafia.
                                Silver Seat
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3996

                                #30
                                Winning comfortably is great but we just need to win and any win gives confidence.

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