Is the dressing room lost?

[Factamondo]

i noticed this a while ago the sunderland away game stood out for me, makie seems very reluctant to pass to cisse. however, it could be makies head down approach when he is on the ball though

or is he the imperial wizard of cheam???

[willis1980]

I remember distinctly seeing a vid of training some months back and the camp was split in training - Derry/Hill/Barton/Mackie/Kenny having a kickabout, and Taiwo/Diakate/Cisse/Tarbs having theirs. At the time, I thought this was strange, but thought nothing of it.

IMO dressing room not lost but definite rifts between groups of players. Nothing we can do about it this season.

i mentioned this to another R on friday night, as it stood out last season too. there clearly seems to be 2 camps one of them the english brigade and the other the french lot. there was that photo of all the english lads out celebrating survival and then when you watched the tunnel cams it always seemed the french/african players celebrating wins amongst themselves.

[Shania]

well the give away is ones black afro french with bird s hite on his ed and the other is white tatto'ed and bit like the co alition government plenty of huff but no puff!

Yeah, something like that!:=):

[willis1980]

or is he the imperial wizard of cheam???

if only! then he could do that whole look into my eyes lark to the oppositions defenders

[80sCasual]

Definately noticeable on Sunday, something not been right between Taarabt and Granero for a while though, like kids yesterday when Granero came on fighting over the free kick and Adel throwing one of his strops.

[Factamondo]

Definately noticeable on Sunday, something not been right between Taarabt and Granero for a while though, like kids yesterday when Granero came on fighting over the free kick and Adel throwing one of his strops.

its the spanish/moors thingy cas.....they hate one n another!

[willis1980]

probably a fair bit of rivalry over which one of them is the star player, and tarbs winning the race by several furlongs.

[80sCasual]

its the spanish/moors thingy cas.....they hate one n another!

You may be right Facto, except when dealings are done between them across the water at night

[Shania]

Get rid of both of them. Had enough.

[pblockranger]

When granero came on for diakite yesterday no handshake high 5 and they didn't even look at each other

[Timmy the Doc]

I swear yesterday Mackie and Cisse weren't talking to each other. Just seems to be massive friction between the 2 . Same goes for Granero and Taarabt

If I was playing with Mackie, waiting for a decent pass once in a lifetime, I wouldn't talk to him.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

I don't think the dressing room has been lost.
I think it's still where it's always been, just down the tunnel as you come off the pitch, first turning on the left.

[zeberdee]

Of the hundreds of things on the todo list one near the top will be to to ship out moaners and remove factions because that stuff is poison to a football team. We have seen recently a push to see who really wants to stay because January is a time when that stuff can be addressed. Harry is massive on team spirit so things will get better once the fire fighting eases off.