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  • Marshy
    • Sep 2012
    • 1958

    #1

    Cesar's goalkicks

    Some of them don't even reach the half-way line. And the ones that do, we always seem to lose the ball. Saw it against Arsenal, saw it again today.
  • MattyRangers
    Slimmer of The Year
    • Jun 2011
    • 24914

    #2
    Far far more concerning issues than his goal kicks .
    You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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    • Ginger Ninja
      W12 Seat
      • Jan 2010
      • 17458

      #3
      Yeah, like learning how to defend set pieces and beat teams in the air.
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      • MattyRangers
        Slimmer of The Year
        • Jun 2011
        • 24914

        #4
        Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
        Yeah, like learning how to defend set pieces and beat teams in the air.
        I made it the 83rd minute before we won a header from a set piece on our box. Embarrassing .
        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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        • QPR_NW10
          Silver Seat
          • May 2011
          • 2659

          #5
          Originally posted by MattyRangers
          Far far more concerning issues than his goal kicks .
          Yes

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          • DeepcutHoop
            Gold Seat
            • Dec 2009
            • 6965

            #6
            What a weird thing to focus on at this point.

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            • W12hoops
              Silver Seat
              • Feb 2010
              • 3019

              #7
              Indeed a very weird thing to focus on.

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              • Marshy
                • Sep 2012
                • 1958

                #8
                Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                What a weird thing to focus on at this point.
                Why is it weird? It's called losing possession. You and Matty probably have a simplistic view that "just get the ball in the box" and score, the reality is, there are many areas of improvements that all contribute, and not constantly losing possession from your own goalkicks is one. I counted about 6 times in a row against Arsenal when we took a goalkick, and lost the ball immediately, and Arsenal got possession again.

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                • W12hoops
                  Silver Seat
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 3019

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Marshy
                  Why is it weird? It's called losing possession. You and Matty probably have a simplistic view that "just get the ball in the box" and score, the reality is, there are many areas of improvements that all contribute, and not constantly losing possession from your own goalkicks is one. I counted about 6 times in a row against Arsenal when we took a goalkick, and lost the ball immediately, and Arsenal got possession again.
                  Then the issue is who receives the ball, not the distance of his kicks.

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                  • taarabt7
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1592

                    #10
                    teams rarely keep possession from goalkicks

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                    • twranger
                      On the posh naughty step
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 10472

                      #11
                      thats a new one to nik- pick holes in - his goal kicks, still, if it helps....

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                      • DeepcutHoop
                        Gold Seat
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 6965

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marshy
                        Why is it weird? It's called losing possession. You and Matty probably have a simplistic view that "just get the ball in the box" and score, the reality is, there are many areas of improvements that all contribute, and not constantly losing possession from your own goalkicks is one. I counted about 6 times in a row against Arsenal when we took a goalkick, and lost the ball immediately, and Arsenal got possession again.
                        What's the length of the kick got to do with that?

                        The players aren't glued to an area the other side of the half way line. They know what length he has (oo-er obviously), so should be stood in the right place.

                        Not the keeper's fault

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                        • Marshy
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 1958

                          #13
                          Originally posted by taarabt7
                          teams rarely keep possession from goalkicks
                          Rarely? What rubbish. No one is saying you win it 100%, no one is even saying you win it 50%. But you do expect to not be gaining possession 10%.

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                          • Marshy
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1958

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                            What's the length of the kick got to do with that?

                            The players aren't glued to an area the other side of the half way line. They know what length he has (oo-er obviously), so should be stood in the right place.

                            Not the keeper's fault
                            Of course the length matters. If you're kicking it only to the halfway line and lose possession, then the other team can come straight back at you in a dangerous position. That is why goalkicks are always in the other teams half.

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                            • gator
                              Gold Seat
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 6791

                              #15
                              Wasn't Zamora's cross from Cisse all started from a nice pass from Cesar down the wing?
                              @gatorTFC

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