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  • silvercue
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 4704

    #16
    he looked tired or lazy and was arguing with Zammo about who should be where, dropping off, helping mid etc. Worrying that no one knows what to do.
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    • silvercue
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4704

      #17
      Originally posted by QPR Richard
      Strikers are taught to defend. Coaches set up 4 v 2 drills and get the strikers defending from the front. They learn to shut down space for defenders so they have to hoof the ball up the pitch and thereby possibly conceding possession.

      Of course, lazy strikers don't bother with this
      SAF didn't do that with Berbatov and.....he won the Golden Boot AND the title. Strikers primary objective is to score goals, not defend in areas that don't really need to. MH seems to like that though - hence we play SWP.....and hence we are bottom.
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      • Geng
        Silver Seat
        • Jul 2009
        • 1449

        #18
        if you say there are 'areas we don't need to defend in', then i take it you dont mind the fact we were overrun 3vs 2 in centre mid?

        or do you think a magical 12th man was going to help out there?

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        • QPRWEBBIE
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2011
          • 3172

          #19
          Iv been disappointed with Cisse so far he just doesnt seem interested at the moment

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          • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
            Gold Seat
            • Sep 2012
            • 8957

            #20
            Agree with webbie.

            Ego.

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            • Timmy the Doc
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2012
              • 3193

              #21
              He had most of our shots on goal yesterday. No one was from a very good opportunity, but a couple almost went in. He was our only player who looked like scoring before Taarabt came in.

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              • silvercue
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 4704

                #22
                Originally posted by Geng
                if you say there are 'areas we don't need to defend in', then i take it you dont mind the fact we were overrun 3vs 2 in centre mid?

                or do you think a magical 12th man was going to help out there?
                No. If you read many of the posts I have made since the game you will see that I think the midfield is where we lost the game and MH was too slow to react to us being 4 v 5 and not coping. However, I think that some players are good enough to play even if their work rate at the opponents end of the pitch is not 100% when they don't have the ball. Tarbs for example. Players like SWP only playing because they run around like idiots has won us precisely zero games this season.

                I weas making the comparison with Berbatov as I think SAF has got a few things right in his time.
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                • Jeems
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2857

                  #23
                  Cisse is a lazy type of striker, he won't chase down many things but when given consistent service, he will score.

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                  • stanistheman
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11151

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jeems
                    Cisse is a lazy type of striker, he won't chase down many things but when given consistent service, he will score.
                    Clive Allen was a lazy player but he often scored goals that won points. That's what good goalscorer a do.
                    Cisse will score goals and as long as the defence and midfield do their jobs better qpr will win games

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                    • Geng
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1449

                      #25
                      Originally posted by silvercue
                      No. If you read many of the posts I have made since the game you will see that I think the midfield is where we lost the game and MH was too slow to react to us being 4 v 5 and not coping. However, I think that some players are good enough to play even if their work rate at the opponents end of the pitch is not 100% when they don't have the ball. Tarbs for example. Players like SWP only playing because they run around like idiots has won us precisely zero games this season.

                      I weas making the comparison with Berbatov as I think SAF has got a few things right in his time.
                      So how do you intend on playing a non-defending Cisse along with a five man midfield? Drop Zamora, who has looked far better than Cisse all season, and is our only striker suited to playing ahead of a midfield five?

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