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  • Cookie Monster
    Apprentice
    • Aug 2012
    • 235

    #16
    Originally posted by W12_Ranger
    Start looking at the 2 centre midfielders Graneo and Faurlin.

    Their ineffectiveness has been proven over the course of a few matches now.

    They are not winning enough tackles, they give the ball away too easily. Neither offer a real attacking threat and rarely play killer balls and deliveries from dead balls are below average

    We simply cannot afford both in the team they are too similar

    At 2-1 Graneo should have equalised it was a terrible miss. Taarabt played a few passes today neither are capable off

    Disagree with me the results speak for themselves points and wins what matter

    Off the pair Graneo is better so Faurlin must be dropped

    The pair are getting far too many plaudits for my liking whilst the rest of the team get slated

    I offered up this opinion a couple games ago and no one agreed...I wonder how many will agree when we haven't won a match by November.

    Stop playing players out of position, change the centre midfield and start Taarabt every match down the left
    I agree. I think it worked for a couple games but now its been sussed out. We were much better when we added Samba to the midfield.

    I think it also has the affect of meaning Hughes pickes more deffensively minded wingers like Park which when we have Hill and Oonuha as full backs mean were left with absoloutley no width.

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    • 1973 ranger
      Gold Seat
      • Aug 2012
      • 5990

      #17
      It comes to down to all doing there jobs and our manager never did his. I was sitting next to Wally Downes and Neil Mcdonald last week againgst Reading and make no mistake were prepared to expose our lack of defensive full backs.

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      • fisnik
        Silver Seat
        • Aug 2012
        • 1224

        #18
        Look, it was 2 vs 3 in the middle. They would have to have been exceptional today in order to look good. It was a gamble that Hughes took in order to play both Zamora and Cisse up top. He showed his faith in them by doing that but it was way to risky and it showed that it wasn't the right decision... We should have matched them with 5 in midfield with maybe Taraabt or hoilet as AM in a 4-2-3-1 and maybe changed it later on in the game but that would have drawn other criticisms on here about how we can't play with only one striker at home and so on and so forth....

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        • loft54
          Apprentice
          • Jul 2012
          • 203

          #19
          Busheyboy I think your spot on.

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          • BigDanShittu
            Bronze Seat
            • Apr 2011
            • 406

            #20
            Agree with the OP about the centre of midfield but disagree about Granero. IMO he doesn't have a proper role where Faurlin is a deeplying playmaker he nicks the ball and pings about passes but Granero spends too long on the ball, doesn't put enough tackles in and loses out through being weak. I like Granero but would have preferred we invested in a defensive midfielder like De Jong as I feel Faurlin would work better with this kind of player. Also Tarbs and Faurlin link up really well.
            Estamos QPR

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            • silvercue
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 4704

              #21
              Originally posted by fisnik
              Look, it was 2 vs 3 in the middle. They would have to have been exceptional today in order to look good. It was a gamble that Hughes took in order to play both Zamora and Cisse up top. He showed his faith in them by doing that but it was way to risky and it showed that it wasn't the right decision... We should have matched them with 5 in midfield with maybe Taraabt or hoilet as AM in a 4-2-3-1 and maybe changed it later on in the game but that would have drawn other criticisms on here about how we can't play with only one striker at home and so on and so forth....
              I think the starting formation was fine, but he should have changed it earlier when he saw we were so over run in the middle.
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              • theblackmafia.
                Silver Seat
                • Sep 2009
                • 3996

                #22
                I was saying AF was overrated in the Championship....just remember the hype by some on here not long ago, saying "sign him up on a new contract", "he will be snapped up by a top four side" etc, etc....he's slow and can't tackle....wait for it....

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                • James1979
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4857

                  #23
                  Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                  I was saying AF was overrated in the Championship....just remember the hype by some on here not long ago, saying "sign him up on a new contract", "he will be snapped up by a top four side" etc, etc....he's slow and can't tackle....wait for it....
                  neither granero or faurlin are quick and thats the problem with them....oh and they also get bullied by diame and nolan. I do think they can take us forward in premiership but they need an enforcer alongside them.

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                  • NW9_RANGER
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2537

                    #24
                    Well said mate. You only need one player in the midfield who is gonna pass around the midfield

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                    • QPRSCLART
                      Bronze Seat
                      • May 2012
                      • 267

                      #25
                      bring derry in to play the makalele role

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                      • theblackmafia.
                        Silver Seat
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3996

                        #26
                        Originally posted by James1979
                        neither granero or faurlin are quick and thats the problem with them....oh and they also get bullied by diame and nolan. I do think they can take us forward in premiership but they need an enforcer alongside them.
                        Like who, Samba, Mbia? If we play AF, EG and 'a.n.other/enforcer' what formation is he gonna play?

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                        • James1979
                          Silver Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4857

                          #27
                          Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                          Like who, Samba, Mbia? If we play AF, EG and 'a.n.other/enforcer' what formation is he gonna play?
                          Samba. Full backs provide the width and fabio, bosingwa will be back soon. Up top you have zamora, with adel and hoilet/cisse/swp/mackie (take your pick). Adel in free role.

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                          • TRING-RANGER
                            Silver Seat
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1849

                            #28
                            The game was an absolute shambles ,

                            flucking worse than reading ,hughes needs to get his hands out of his pockets and show a bit of passion if he knows what it means ,

                            only plus was the rib eye steak, medium rare in the Adelaide was just lovely...................

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                            • 1973 ranger
                              Gold Seat
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 5990

                              #29
                              Cant see it as all his team's are about team shape and organisation. You make a great point but doubt it will happen.

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                              • theblackmafia.
                                Silver Seat
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3996

                                #30
                                So....
                                All hail...
                                Bosingwa Anton Mbia Fabio
                                Granero Diakite Faurlin
                                Tarbs
                                Cisse
                                ?

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