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  • Marshy
    • Sep 2012
    • 1958

    #1

    Hoilett vs SWP

    I really cannot believe that we would play SWP instead of Hoilett. What was the thinking behind this? That SWP might be "up for it" against his former club? That he scored in midweek so will be high in confidence? That he had a decent pre-season against rubbish foreign teams?

    Hoilett is a much better player than SWP in each and every way. The only thing SWP has is pace, he can put his head down, run past someone, but then he is clueless. He can't cross, he can't dribble, he lacks composure on the ball, he can't hold the ball up and bring others into the game. Hoilett on the other hand has all these things.

    Yes, Hoilett had a poor game against Norwich, but the job of a good manager is to encourage the good players after they have a bad game so that they come back stronger, not start changing the team like a headless chicken.
  • RblockTourist
    Apprentice
    • May 2012
    • 191

    #2
    Because SWP tracks back when Hoilett doesnt and against the Champions in the their own back yard, what we need, bit like why Mackie started in front of Adel against Norwich

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    • SirLes09

      #3
      Originally posted by Marshy
      I really cannot believe that we would play SWP instead of Hoilett. What was the thinking behind this? That SWP might be "up for it" against his former club? That he scored in midweek so will be high in confidence? That he had a decent pre-season against rubbish foreign teams?

      Hoilett is a much better player than SWP in each and every way. The only thing SWP has is pace, he can put his head down, run past someone, but then he is clueless. He can't cross, he can't dribble, he lacks composure on the ball, he can't hold the ball up and bring others into the game. Hoilett on the other hand has all these things.

      Yes, Hoilett had a poor game against Norwich, but the job of a good manager is to encourage the good players after they have a bad game so that they come back stronger, not start changing the team like a headless chicken.
      Agree I would of like to of seen holliet but I'd imagine you had a smile on your face not seeing mackie?

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      • WindsorR
        Apprentice
        • Jul 2012
        • 118

        #4
        Seriously, that lack of support for the manager from the fans is truly appalling

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        • Grifter
          Apprentice
          • Jul 2012
          • 149

          #5
          Hoillet's been off form, SWP's been on form, simple.
          SWP's characteristics as a player make him a much better bet for playing a side which will be applying a lot of pressure to our defence.
          He was good today.

          edit: "Hoilett is a much better player than SWP in each and every way. "

          I'm so glad we've got hughes managing and not one of the fans.. Picking a team for a game is about assessing the relative merits of each player with regards to the specifics of the opposition you're facing. Not just saying "he's better than him, so he should play". I'm guessing cisse should have started ahead of zamora cus' he's better right?
          Last edited by Grifter; 01-09-2012, 07:36 PM.

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          • RblockTourist
            Apprentice
            • May 2012
            • 191

            #6
            Originally posted by Grifter
            Hoillet's been off form, SWP's been on form, simple.
            SWP's characteristics as a player make him a much better bet for playing a side which will be applying a lot of pressure to our defence.
            He was good today.

            edit: "Hoilett is a much better player than SWP in each and every way. "

            I'm so glad we've got hughes managing and not one of the fans.. Picking a team for a game is about assessing the relative merits of each player with regards to the specifics of the opposition you're facing. Not just saying "he's better than him, so he should play". I'm guessing cisse should have started ahead of zamora cus' he's better right?

            I wouldn't of called him good today to be honest but i understood why he was played instead of hoilett in a tactical sense

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            • jjohnboy17
              Apprentice
              • Apr 2011
              • 235

              #7
              stop moaning, SWP played well, like most of our team today, we was just up against a BETTER team, end of!
              I cant help FAURLIN in the love with you.....

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              • Marshy
                • Sep 2012
                • 1958

                #8
                Originally posted by Grifter
                Hoillet's been off form, SWP's been on form, simple.
                Are you for real? I mean, SERIOUSLY? Hoilett was our best player against Swansea. He had a poor game against Norwich, as did EVERYONE else. And you call that being off form?
                And SWP had one good game against ... Walsall!!! And you call that being on form?

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                • jjohnboy17
                  Apprentice
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 235

                  #9
                  you should support city or united mate, you might not fall down as much then.
                  I cant help FAURLIN in the love with you.....

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                  • RblockTourist
                    Apprentice
                    • May 2012
                    • 191

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Marshy
                    Are you for real? I mean, SERIOUSLY? Hoilett was our best player against Swansea. He had a poor game against Norwich, as did EVERYONE else. And you call that being off form?
                    And SWP had one good game against ... Walsall!!! And you call that being on form?
                    and Hoilett was our one real bad player against walsall... so form yes

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                    • swede
                      Silver Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjohnboy17
                      stop moaning, SWP played well, like most of our team today, we was just up against a BETTER team, end of!

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                      • QPR1976
                        Silver Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 2391

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marshy
                        Are you for real? I mean, SERIOUSLY? Hoilett was our best player against Swansea. He had a poor game against Norwich, as did EVERYONE else. And you call that being off form?
                        And SWP had one good game against ... Walsall!!! And you call that being on form?

                        I don't think it's creditable to use the Walsall game as an example. SWP was poor last Tuesday (apart from a toe-poke). But Hoilett was toilet ! He looked overweight and was just about as lazy a performance I've seen since our last Carling/Capital Cup game. I don't recall him beating his marker all night. I suspect he was dropped as a result.
                        Ordinarily, I would have started with Adel, but if he's considered a non starter Away, I might have considered Traore wide left. Our best crosser and he troubled them last season I recall.

                        SWP is a worry for me - I agree with much of the concerns about what he offers. Poor 1st touch, Can't shoot, Doesn't beat anyone, Rarely get to the touch line to cross, Always preferring to cut in. Today, he must have thought he was still playing for City the number of times he passed to their players. (Or lost possession).
                        Last edited by QPR1976; 01-09-2012, 10:40 PM.

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                        • Del
                          Gold Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8393

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Marshy
                          I really cannot believe that we would play SWP instead of Hoilett. What was the thinking behind this? That SWP might be "up for it" against his former club? That he scored in midweek so will be high in confidence? That he had a decent pre-season against rubbish foreign teams?

                          Hoilett is a much better player than SWP in each and every way. The only thing SWP has is pace, he can put his head down, run past someone, but then he is clueless. He can't cross, he can't dribble, he lacks composure on the ball, he can't hold the ball up and bring others into the game. Hoilett on the other hand has all these things.

                          Yes, Hoilett had a poor game against Norwich, but the job of a good manager is to encourage the good players after they have a bad game so that they come back stronger, not start changing the team like a headless chicken.

                          Blimey you truely are clueless.

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                          • Dazzer1977
                            W12 Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4751

                            #14
                            Joliet picked up a knock against Walsall in the week hence why he never started.

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